is wine fattenning?

[ygohome]

my [used to be] slim figure is suffering even with regular excersize. I used to be 210 and went down to 140 in 8 months after quiting alco. But kept up with smoking. of course I excersized and dieted too. I think it was partly from pshychological from a DUI. Doctor said from a recent move, job change, and the dui trial in addition to the new diet and excersize accounted for the massive weight loss

Currently at 180 lbs... but I've been enjoying a bottle of wine a nite and even with excersizing each night [15 min cardio 15 min weights) I am not appearing to improve. Want to be 165. height is 6', btw. my question is... do i HAVE to cut out the alco altogether? I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels

 

[LogiWorld123]

Wine just has alot of carbohydrates.

*Edit JUST HAVE ONE GLASS A DAY, NOT 1 BOTTLE.

 

[SID297]

Not to be mean, but I think you have a bit of an alcohol problem.

 

[FuryShift]

If you are wanting to lose weight I suggest getting more serious on the workout and dieting. Maintaining a healthy physique is 30% Exercise, 30% Diet, and 30% Sleep. Each person is different and you need to be able to find what works best for you through trial and error. Eat the majority of your daily carbohydrates in the morning for energy and try to cut them down in the latter part of the day where they will not be used, only stored. Take in large quantities of protein to fuel your muscle growth and give you a more toned and lean look. Needless to say, stay away from Saturated fats. Try to exercise for at least an hour a day. Do not run for distance run for time, I suggest starting at whatever you can do now but do not exceed 30 minutes. Lift moderately heavy weights, you shuold be able to pump out more than 8 reps, if not you're lifting too much for what you are trying to accomplish. Hope that helps.


edit - If you have any more questions about getting into shape, just ask.

 

[05 Roush]

Alcohol is terrible. It slows your metabolism down moreso than the calories. Switch to light beer. You'll feel bloated and have the urge to avoid wine altogether. :beer:

 

[ygohome]

Originally posted by FuryShift
If you are wanting to lose weight I suggest getting more serious on the workout and dieting. Maintaining a healthy physique is 30% Exercise, 30% Diet, and 30% Sleep. Each person is different and you need to be able to find what works best for you through trial and error. Eat the majority of your daily carbohydrates in the morning for energy and try to cut them down in the latter part of the day where they will not be used, only stored. Take in large quantities of protein to fuel your muscle growth and give you a more toned and lean look. Needless to say, stay away from Saturated fats. Try to exercise for at least an hour a day. Do not run for distance run for time, I suggest starting at whatever you can do now but do not exceed 30 minutes. Lift moderately heavy weights, you shuold be able to pump out more than 8 reps, if not you're lifting too much for what you are trying to accomplish. Hope that helps.


edit - If you have any more questions about getting into shape, just ask.

thank you this sounds like a good plan. I'm going to try this for a few weeks. After I get started and begin seeing good results it is hard to stop.

btw you only accounted for 90% of what it takes to lose weight the remaining 10% is lippo?

thanks again. I'm also going to cut back on the drinking... it was just a crutch.

 

[03CobraBro]

I thought red wine was actually proven to absorb fat.

I dont know, like Scoriox said, drink it in moderation.

Correction: A glass, of red wine, a day is supposed to help prevent heart disease, thats what I'm thinking of.

 

[05 Roush]

Originally posted by 03CobraBro
I thought red wine was actually proven to absorb fat.

I dont know, like Scoriox said, drink it in moderation.

Correction: A glass, of red wine, a day is supposed to help prevent heart disease, thats what I'm thinking of.

That is correct. However the sulfates are not good for you. That's why 2 light beers prevent heart disease just the same at 1 wine glass, without the harmful stuff. :beer:

 

[Blackgeetee]

Originally posted by FuryShift
and 30% Sleep.

30% sleep? How does this help?:??:

 

[Aaron_01]

Alcohol promotes fat storage and lowers testosterone production

 

[05 Roush]

Originally posted by Aaron_01
Alcohol promotes fat storage and lowers testosterone production

Man, you had to bring that up. Now I'm ready to ditch the whole case. :nonono:

 

[Aaron_01]

Well its the truth, sorry to be the bearer of bad news

 

[03CobraBro]

Originally posted by Aaron_01
Alcohol promotes fat storage and lowers testosterone production

If you drink a bottle a day yes, if anything you have your liver to worry about at the point. But, 1 glass a day will not hurt you, and with the say so of people who spent more years going to school studying this sort of thing than I'v been on this earth, I'm willing to put alittle faith into what they have to say and that's, that it helps prevent heart disease.

 

[ygohome]

and if this is true, why do I continue to experience hair loss if my testosterone supposedly is lowering by drinking?

j/k


btw. I could only do 45 min tonight of excersize. Tomorrow will be able to do an hour.

 

[Aaron_01]

Originally posted by ygohome
and if this is true, why do I continue to experience hair loss if my testosterone supposedly is lowering by drinking?

j/k


btw. I could only do 45 min tonight of excersize. Tomorrow will be able to do an hour.

http://www.extreme-athlete.com/workoutnono.htm

"it appears that short-term alcohol use inhibits muscular protein synthesis. In fact, this effect is particularly pronounced in fast muscle fibers, especially after prolonged alcohol use. The scenario would be detrimental for any athlete trying to gain muscle mass and strength through training."

"Alcohol adversely influences the anabolic properties of two of our principal growth promoting hormones, Insulin and Growth Hormone. Furthermore, most of the anabolic effects initiated by Growth Hormone are mediated by Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1). "

"An occasional glass of red wine has been shown to possess healthful benefits - nothing beats a good Merlot. However, if you're serious about making gains in strength and mass, then maybe you should abstain from alcohol, especially immediately before bed and after exercise. This precaution is especially important if you are below 20 years of age, when Growth Hormone release is most necessary for normal growth and development. Moderation is always the best policy"
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Why alcohol calories are more important than you think...

Successful weight loss is all about oxidizing (or burning), more
calories than you eat. When they go on a diet, many people choose
low-calorie alcoholic drinks, mainly because they contain fewer
alcohol calories than their regular counterparts.

However, drinking too much has a far more damaging effect than
you can predict simply by looking at the number of alcohol
calories in a drink. Not only does it reduce the number of fat
calories you burn, alcohol can increase your appetite and lower
your testosterone levels for up to 24 hours after you finish
drinking.

According to conventional wisdom, the infamous "beer belly" is
caused by excess alcohol calories being stored as fat. Yet, less
than five percent of the alcohol calories you drink are turned
into fat. Rather, the main effect of alcohol is to reduce the
amount of fat your body burns for energy.

Some evidence for this comes from research carried in the
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Eight men were given
two drinks of vodka and lemonade separated by 30 minutes. Each
drink contained just under 90 calories. Fat metabolism was
measured before and after consumption of the drink. For several
hours after drinking the vodka, whole body lipid oxidation (a
measure of how much fat your body is burning) dropped by a
massive 73%.

Rather than getting stored as fat, the main fate of alcohol is
conversion into a substance called acetate. In fact, blood levels
of acetate after drinking the vodka were 2.5 times higher than
normal. And it appears this sharp rise in acetate puts the brakes
on fat loss.

A car engine typically uses only one source of fuel. Your body,
on the other hand, draws from a number of different energy
sources, such as carbohydrate, fat, and protein. To a certain
extent, the source of fuel your body uses is dictated by its
availability.

In other words, your body tends to use whatever you feed it.
Consequently, when acetate levels rise, your body simply burns
more acetate, and less fat. In essence, acetate pushes fat to the
back of the queue.

So, to summarize and review, here's what happens to fat
metabolism after the odd drink or two.

- A small portion of the alcohol is converted into fat.

- Your liver then converts most of the alcohol into acetate.

- The acetate is then released into your bloodstream, and
replaces fat as a source of fuel.

The way your body responds to alcohol is very similar to the way
it deals with excess carbohydrate. Although carbohydrate can be
converted directly into fat, one of the main effects of
overfeeding with carbohydrate is that it simply replaces fat as a
source of energy. That's why any type of diet, whether it's
high-fat, high-protein, or high-carbohydrate, can lead to a gain
in weight.

The combination of alcohol and a high-calorie meal is especially
fattening, mainly because alcohol acts as a potent appetizer. A
Canadian study shows that an aperitif (an alcoholic drink taken
before a meal to increase the appetite) increased calorie intake
to a greater extent than a carbohydrate-based drink.

Not only does alcohol put the brakes on fat loss, it's also one
of the most effective ways to slash your testosterone levels.
Just a single bout of heavy drinking raises levels of the
muscle-wasting hormone cortisol and increases the breakdown of
testosterone for up to 24 hours. The damaging effects of
alcohol on testosterone are made even worse when you exercise
before drinking.

The effect of alcohol on testosterone could be one reason that
people who drink a lot carry less muscle. In fact, a 1993 study
shows that alcoholic men have bigger waists and smaller muscles
than teetotalers.

Although an alcohol-rich meal does increase your metabolic rate,
it also suppresses the number of fat calories your body burns for
energy — far more so than meals rich in protein, carbohydrate, or
fat. While the odd drink now and again isn't going to hurt,
the bottom line is that alcohol and a leaner, stronger body just
doesn't mix.

To view this update on-line, visit:

http://thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/alcohol.htm

 

[ygohome]

thats very good info to be aware of. thanks Aaron