The fitment of my Stinger cat-back is horrible. The welds are low-quality. The stainless steel is already speckled with tarnish, especially around the stamped Borla lettering on the mufflers. The tips are covered in trash from the poor job welding the hangers. There are even tiny dents in the brand new tips when I uncovered them tonight. And I still can't believe they advertise a 2.5" exhaust system but start it off with a much smaller piece of pipe. It doesn't even seal well with my Bassani X-pipe since the Bassani is a true 2.5" piece. If I could get my money back and have the same sound, I would go with a full Bassani setup in a heartbeat.
I thought Borla was better than this
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There is a member on here that worked for borla. In another thread is was explaining how they changed there ways and all material they us is junk now. The stainless isn't high quality anymore and the welding sucks now. I guess it's true. I'm sure he'll chime in once he sees this thread. That just sucks man.
i cheack mine out yesterday ,minemlook great welds tips.i did see the smaller flanges toward the h pipe.not installed yet .packagen ws great did your come the a borla ball cap
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I bought mine about 2 years ago. Fitment was a bitch, but got a BFH and that fixed it.
I run bassani catted X and the stingers with no issues...they were pricey!
I run bassani catted X and the stingers with no issues...they were pricey!
I can't stand to even look at the connection between the Bassani X and Borla mufflers. The size difference between the two systems at that point is ridiculous. The flared end of the Borla looks like it seals around the Bassani by mere millimeters. I just do not see how people have thought this was acceptable for so long. I read a statement from a Borla Representative that they are working on removing that small piece of smaller diameter pipe and making the entire kit a true 2.5" system, but it is too ****ing late for all of us. I will just have to break down and remove the mufflers and get some larger pipes welded on one day and hope they don't screw them up.
The flared ends fit with the Bassani X, but they do so very poorly.
Go with the full Bassani system.. I have their catted X, and CB and the sound is quite pleasing to my ears. You know your Bassani system will fit up nicely with the X as well.
This is my advice as well, unless Borla fixes their fitment and quality issues and makes a true 2.5" kit. If only I could sell these Stingers and be able to afford the Bassani system.
Or you could just go with a Magnaflow system, I spent 400+ for a stainless Magnaflow system and I love it, for years I have had people preaching to me about Borla or Bassani, after reading your story for one I feel bad for ya they suck for doing that for two I'm glad I didn't throw down 7 or 800 bucks!
My Magnaflow fit great! I still want to weld on some stingers in place though. Don't care for the Magnaflow sound.
I'm trying to work on returning them to Borla. If I have to pay return shipping, I'll probably just sell them to somebody and cut my losses. I'm going with a full Bassani setup now as I should have done in the first place.
i have a magnaflow catback with stinger mufflers and borla stinger tips. I cant stand the way borla fits, my magnaflow fits perfect and the stainless is high quality. I like the bends in the magnaflow better to.
goodluck
goodluck
How hard was it to weld the Stingers into the Magnaflow CB considering the different offsets? What did you pay to have it done? Also, what kind of midpipe are you running? I'm considering doing the same thing with my Magnaflow because I can't stand the blatty, old farm truck sound.
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I love my borlas, the fitment is a bit off, well see how long it lasts, if anything goes bad ill just get magnaflows and weld in magnapacks
wow, thats crazy to hear. i bought my stingers last summer and the fit/condition was great. I mounted them up to my magnaflow catted xpipe with no problems. When did this borla material/workmanship change over occur? Maybe it's happened within the past 18 months.....lord knows a bunch of other stuff has gone to hell in a hand basket since then.... :nonono:
I know I'll be getting the Borla Stinger catback before too long.
The sound cannot be beat. companies always do something to try to stay afloat. borla is still innovating too. Take a look at the new catback for the Camaro as an example. They are not looking to just go away.
They have a great rep and will look to keep it that way. Sure, there can be a few bad ones made by ANYONE.
If that is the case, send it back and request/demand a new kit.
but by and large, it sounds like there are two people who don't like them.
and the smaller diam. at the crossover is for easy fitting into the h or x.
If you would rather weld straight up, then it is a non issue. You can cut the smaller piece off, fab a new one and weld right up. Or have a shop do it for you.
The Borla Stinger system has the best flow and the best sound.
I do like the MagnaFlow as they sound like what FlowMaster is supposed to sound like, but the Borla sound is so crisp, clean, deep, and it just sounds like what a modern day hot rod should sound like.
I have heard Bassani, Mac, and Borla from a few other Cobras (and my own FlowMasters) and the Bassani sounded a little too indistinct, the Mac sounded like FlowMasters mostly, the FlowMasters sound like they drown out at higher RPMs, and the borlas sound like the monster the other ones are afraid of. At low RPMS, they sound rumbly and throaty and at high RPMS, they sound like they are very crisp - the best analogy I can give is a really high end speaker setup - with cheap ones, you get the details of the sound drowned out, but with good ones, you hear every beat of bass, the mids, and the highs. that describes the Borla Stingers to a "T"
It will be interesting to see how many others purchase these systems and like them or don't like them. Working for a company, you always get to see things that make you questions. I used to work for ATT and Verizon and I swore they were both lame. But guess what, I use one of them for my cell phone service.
When I get my Stingers, I'll chime in and see what the real deal is. I hope they are great. Cannot beat the sound. But if they are of poor quality, I will definitely post that up as well as demand a replacement (better) set.
The sound cannot be beat. companies always do something to try to stay afloat. borla is still innovating too. Take a look at the new catback for the Camaro as an example. They are not looking to just go away.
They have a great rep and will look to keep it that way. Sure, there can be a few bad ones made by ANYONE.
If that is the case, send it back and request/demand a new kit.
but by and large, it sounds like there are two people who don't like them.
and the smaller diam. at the crossover is for easy fitting into the h or x.
If you would rather weld straight up, then it is a non issue. You can cut the smaller piece off, fab a new one and weld right up. Or have a shop do it for you.
The Borla Stinger system has the best flow and the best sound.
I do like the MagnaFlow as they sound like what FlowMaster is supposed to sound like, but the Borla sound is so crisp, clean, deep, and it just sounds like what a modern day hot rod should sound like.
I have heard Bassani, Mac, and Borla from a few other Cobras (and my own FlowMasters) and the Bassani sounded a little too indistinct, the Mac sounded like FlowMasters mostly, the FlowMasters sound like they drown out at higher RPMs, and the borlas sound like the monster the other ones are afraid of. At low RPMS, they sound rumbly and throaty and at high RPMS, they sound like they are very crisp - the best analogy I can give is a really high end speaker setup - with cheap ones, you get the details of the sound drowned out, but with good ones, you hear every beat of bass, the mids, and the highs. that describes the Borla Stingers to a "T"
It will be interesting to see how many others purchase these systems and like them or don't like them. Working for a company, you always get to see things that make you questions. I used to work for ATT and Verizon and I swore they were both lame. But guess what, I use one of them for my cell phone service.
When I get my Stingers, I'll chime in and see what the real deal is. I hope they are great. Cannot beat the sound. But if they are of poor quality, I will definitely post that up as well as demand a replacement (better) set.
I had the same problem frosty. I had the pipes installed and they were rubbing against each other so I snapped some pictures, sent them to borla, and they sent me a whole knew system for no charge. Give them a call, they did the right thing for me, Im sure theyll help you out.
That sounds about right. Glad that worked out for you.
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