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What would happen if these companies turned over all of their DNA sequencing and results to a government? Foreign govt.? Has anyone thought about the removal of any privacy rights you may still have. The power of the federal govt is beyond most people's imagination....I don't think I'll check to see if I'm Irish...
 

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What would happen if these companies turned over all of their DNA sequencing and results to a government? Foreign govt.? Has anyone thought about the removal of any privacy rights you may still have. The power of the federal govt is beyond most people's imagination....I don't think I'll check to see if I'm Irish...
That was the first thing I thought the first time I saw that ad. Heck, I try not to use a credit card for beer or ammo. I'd hate for .gov to know how much of either I consume.

That said, I've resigned myself to the knowledge that I'm just a curmudgeon at large with no real hope for future privacy. If the electronic records don't know you were there, the cameras do, and they have "the technology" now to know it was you.

Edit: Didn't plan for my last line to sound like Dr. Seuss. ;)
 
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I like tin foil hats.

They are warm.

The reality is they already know anything that you could've sent in. They already have your DNA sequence, already have your browser history, call history, dental records, favorite movie list, and the pet name you call your girlfriend.

Unless you live on a mountain somewhere off the grid, you have zero chance of avoiding it. So just accept it and move on.
 

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So just accept it and move on.

Respectfully, no. :)

A clerk wanted to scan my drivers license for beer last year. I've had a white beard for a long time. We're all pretty sure I'm over 21. I didn't mind him looking at it to satisfy his overlords, but scan it? No. I snatched it out of hands, and was "asked" to leave.

Like I said, I'm a curmudgeon at large and I will torture anyone who requests that I do anything that is over and above what the law requires.
 

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Since I have an idea where this thread is gonna go, lemme just skip ahead a couple of pages.

Implanted RFID devices - to have or to have it not.

Just remember, somebody talked about this in an old book a long time ago.

*Tinfoil hat... on
** Flame suit... on
 

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I've thought the same thing. No way in hell am I sending some fly by night company a sample of my DNA.
Some people are just soft.
 

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Respectfully, no. :)

A clerk wanted to scan my drivers license for beer last year. I've had a white beard for a long time. We're all pretty sure I'm over 21. I didn't mind him looking at it to satisfy his overlords, but scan it? No. I snatched it out of hands, and was "asked" to leave.

Like I said, I'm a curmudgeon at large and I will torture anyone who requests that I do anything that is over and above what the law requires.

But.. in your post you admitted to knowing they will either see you or know you were there regardless. Unless you simply stop going, they are going to know.

You do realize you carry a cell phone. You can be tracked to that specific place you purchased beer, at the specific time. They can then correlate the cash sale that occurred within a certain time frame that your GPS located you there, and thus know what you purchased? If not, they just look at the video and see OETKB buying his favorite Pink Moscato and Toblerone. They are going to know. You either exist or you don't and your footprint isn't reduced by much anymore. Not if you own a home and work/live in the same area.

But even still, you think the government cares that you buy beer? You have some thick tinfoil man.
 

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But.. in your post you admitted to knowing they will either see you or know you were there regardless. Unless you simply stop going, they are going to know.

You do realize you carry a cell phone. You can be tracked to that specific place you purchased beer, at the specific time. They can then correlate the cash sale that occurred within a certain time frame that your GPS located you there, and thus know what you purchased? If not, they just look at the video and see OETKB buying his favorite Pink Moscato and Toblerone. They are going to know. You either exist or you don't and your footprint isn't reduced by much anymore. Not if you own a home and work/live in the same area.

But even still, you think the government cares that you buy beer? You have some thick tinfoil man.


I dunno about you guys, but I'm not tethered to my phone. I usually leave it in the car, I also always have the GPS shut off, unless I need it for Google maps.
 

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But.. in your post you admitted to knowing they will either see you or know you were there regardless. Unless you simply stop going, they are going to know.

You do realize you carry a cell phone. You can be tracked to that specific place you purchased beer, at the specific time. They can then correlate the cash sale that occurred within a certain time frame that your GPS located you there, and thus know what you purchased?

But even still, you think the government cares that you buy beer? You have some thick tinfoil man.
Okay, okay. I will grant you *most* of these things. But let me offer a few tidbits.

Exhibit a) Healthcare will go single payer. It has nowhere else to go, and .gov will run it.

Exhibit b) The mandated electronic medical records will eventually take into account things outside their current scope. Guaranteed.

Exhibit c) What are you or your kids gonna say when they push to get our kids or grandkids RFID chipped?

Exhibit d) Connect the dots.
 
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm not tethered to my phone. I usually leave it in the car, I also always have the GPS shut off, unless I need it for Google maps.

lol. You think that button turns it off? It can be on, and is on, even when you turn it off in the software. Backdoors and such

Okay, okay. I will grant you *most* of these things. But let me offer a few tidbits.

Exhibit a) Healthcare will go single payer. It has nowhere else to go, and .gov will run it.

Exhibit b) The mandated electronic medical records will eventually take into account things outside their current scope. Guaranteed.

Exhibit c) Do you take no satisfaction in resisting when and where you can?

Exhibit d) What are you or your kids gonna say when they push to get our kids or grandkids RFID chipped?

A) Obviously. I'm not sure the big deal. When you consider most private entities lose our financial data all of the time due to hacks, it won't be any different. If anything it might be safer. Who knows

B) Okay? Like what? Unless they can bio-metrically read what you drink and eat, it's not a one to one ratio of "He bought beer, therefore he drank the entire keg" and thus knocks your premium. Basically you're saying if you went to buy food for a BBQ, your insurance would exponentially rise as the "gov" eyes see it as all food you consumed. Hardly likely. You'd be 900 pounds and deserve to pay more.

C) Resisting just to resist is stupid. Life is a game of hold and fold. There are moments where you are severely under gunned and incapable of resisting. This is one of them. Billions have been put into technology to track all of us and register our habits. You think one man who carries cash and won't let his ID card be scanned is their kryptonite? Hahahaha

D) There's already been a crap ton of push back on this. I don't expect it to happen
 

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lol. You think that button turns it off? It can be on, and is on, even when you turn it off in the software. Backdoors and such



A) Obviously. I'm not sure the big deal. When you consider most private entities lose our financial data all of the time due to hacks, it won't be any different. If anything it might be safer. Who knows

B) Okay? Like what? Unless they can bio-metrically read what you drink and eat, it's not a one to one ratio of "He bought beer, therefore he drank the entire keg" and thus knocks your premium. Basically you're saying if you went to buy food for a BBQ, your insurance would exponentially rise as the "gov" eyes see it as all food you consumed. Hardly likely. You'd be 900 pounds and deserve to pay more.

C) Resisting just to resist is stupid. Life is a game of hold and fold. There are moments where you are severely under gunned and incapable of resisting. This is one of them. Billions have been put into technology to track all of us and register our habits. You think one man who carries cash and won't let his ID card be scanned is their kryptonite? Hahahaha

D) There's already been a crap ton of push back on this. I don't expect it to happen
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Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
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"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams

I like his beer.
 

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Me too. And Oktoberfest is the bomb.
In stores now.
But they can't scan my ID. lol

Tried to cash a customer's check at a Bank of America one time. They wanted my fingerprints.
"Ummm no thanks, I'll just deposit it into my own bank."
 

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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin

With that being said, "convenience" is the face motive for most new technology. The 1st tier behind that is commercialism and marketing. Beyond that is subconscious conditioning and ultimately control. I deleted my Facebook account (scrubbed it thoroughly, changed the name, changed the language, etc) two years ago after I noticed that the "people you may know" had a strange correlation to GPS location.

This is not a conspiracy theory, this is truth. Every advertisement is designed to make you want to buy a product. Enslaving an entire society into a lifetime of servitude to pursue fancier belongings is the same as "dude, the man is keeping me down, maaaaaaaaan" and that stinky hippy was right.

If I'm busy working towards getting a fancier car, I'm probably not fighting against the pharmacopeia, or big energy, etc, etc.
 

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Facebook openly admits to using your GPS location and matching you with people you may or may not know who are conveniently in the same area. So you're not wrong.
 

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