decades. what i said is a statement of absolute fact. if you want bang for the buck you will not find it in a mac store. my wife uses macs exclusively as a photographer. she likes it and happy wife happy life but its easily 3-5x the cost of anything comperable PC related. do be fair i build my own stuff but even if you buy a lenovo or custom game pc you're going to end up with a better unit than a mac especially if you spend the same dime.