HELP 03 TERMI NO SPARK!

[Yellatermi03]

Okay guys bare with me please. 03 terminator cobra. Was driving around all day no issues and suddenly with no warning the car just died! Had it towed home and worked on it the next day. Only codes were 1233(fpdm offline) so long story short I'm getting fuel just not spark here is a list of everything I've replaced.
fpdm
Ccrm
Coils
Crank position sensor
Cam position sensor
I've checked all fuses and appear to be completely fine and working. I'm lost and could really use some advice! Thanks in advance!
car is 2003 cobra, 2.3 whipple, kenne bell BAP.

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

fpdm is the fuel pump driver module. How have you verified you have fuel and no spark?

The BAP can be wired either pre or post FPDM I do believe, whichever is last you would want to make sure you have voltage coming out which would be going to the pumps from there. If you dont have voltage there you need to work upstream and see if you can find voltage.

 

[Yellatermi03]

fpdm is the fuel pump driver module. How have you verified you have fuel and no spark?

The BAP can be wired either pre or post FPDM I do believe, whichever is last you would want to make sure you have voltage coming out which would be going to the pumps from there. If you dont have voltage there you need to work upstream and see if you can find voltage.

Yes, I pulled the frps and had my buddy turn the key and im getting fuel, also when you crank it you can smell the raw fuel. I pulled a few coils and put a spark plug in it and cranked but no spark.

 

[Yellatermi03]

I just don't know what else to try!

 

[hotcobra03]

Trigger wheel.

Check for signal from crank-sensor

Multi meter time.

Part 2 -How to Test the Crankshaft Position Sensor (Ford 4.6L, 5.4L)

 

[Yellatermi03]

so is it possible for the trigger wheel to go bad? I thought it was just a steel plate?

 

[BlckBox04]

so the car cranks, it just wont turn over?

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

so is it possible for the trigger wheel to go bad? I thought it was just a steel plate?

the only thing Ive seen is that an improperly installed crank pulley doesnt fully seat it and the key way on the crank will eventually beat up the trigger wheel and it can move around

 

[01yellercobra]

Did you ground the plug when you tested it or did you just slide it into the COP? It needs to be touching metal to complete the circuit.

You can be getting fuel at the line, but not have enough pressure. You need to make sure you have enough pressure as well.

 

[hotcobra03]

Yes it can break. Not common

Test

You do have 12 volts at coils and injectors with key on?

 

[Yellatermi03]

so the car cranks, it just wont turn over?

Correct, car cranks like nothing is wrong but wont fire. You can smell the raw gas like crazy, then it throws a code for the frps reading high.

 

[Yellatermi03]

I'm also getting the 1233 code still, are the fpdm cobra Specific? Like if I took one out of a GT would it work? I've also been told that the fpdm if broken/wrong the car will cut spark, is this true?

 

[Albatross]

Do you have the wire upgrade on the BAP with the relay? If so, I would check that relay. Also, check the inline fuse for the BAP.

 

[BlckBox04]

It is possible it’s the fpdm. You said you replaced it

 

[Yellatermi03]

It is possible it’s the fpdm. You said you replaced it

I did replace it, BUT I replaced it with one from a GT, I ordered one from a cobra and it should be here this week. Until then I'm gonna try a few things and let you guys know, i appreciate every single one of you for trying to help me out.

 

[01yellercobra]

I'm also getting the 1233 code still, are the fpdm cobra Specific? Like if I took one out of a GT would it work? I've also been told that the fpdm if broken/wrong the car will cut spark, is this true?

They're all the same. Even the V6 one will work.

 

[Black02GT]

I did replace it, BUT I replaced it with one from a GT, I ordered one from a cobra and it should be here this week. Until then I'm gonna try a few things and let you guys know, i appreciate every single one of you for trying to help me out.

Like mentioned above are you assuming it's not getting spark or have you actually pulled a plug, grounded the strap and witnessed no spark?

 

[Yellatermi03]

Like mentioned above are you assuming it's not getting spark or have you actually pulled a plug, grounded the strap and witnessed no spark?

I have pulled a plug but I cant remember if I grounded it, I put my thumb over the end and didnt get shocked (not smart I know) I'm going to pull the plug again and make sure, now I'm second guessing myself. Could a pump that's not sending enough pressure cause the 1233 code?

 

[hotcobra03]

Chilton Library

Try the manual.



Go into pin point Test KB. Fuel pump driver module

It will show you what to test

 

[hotcobra03]

https://www.chiltonlibrary.com/content/images/Ford/V32/A0015025.pdf


https://www.chiltonlibrary.com/content/images/WD/Ford/306/WD_Ford_306872.pdf