Dodge Charger & the Hemi?

[Rochard]

This past weekend I drove my Cobra down into Mexico. (Pix and details to follow in the morning.)

Someone I'll loosely call a "friend" drove his Dodge Charger down and was pretty confident his car was faster than mine. I don't usually have such discussions with my friends because most of my friends cars would stomp my Cobra. However, he was pretty much a dick about it. He wanted to race and I was just like "whatever". The next day we were in a little convoy heading out to dinner. We had about ten cars going loaded with people, and we all had walkie talkies. He challenged me and we raced from a rolling start. I ended up pulling away from him so quickly that it was comical. What was even better was that this happened in front of forty of our friends / business associates.

I did a quick search on stats and I'm seeing his 5.7 Hemi having about 320 Horsepower, with a 0-60 in the 6.0 second range? Does this sound correct? Can anyone confirm this before I mock him on a board we both post on?

Also, wasn't there some discussion about how the new "Hemi" really isn't a "Hemi", but more like a totally different engine they called a "Hemi" to make old people buy the car?

 

[SID297]

The heads aren't a true hemi. They basically just borrow the valve arrangement from the originals. Still they do perform pretty well, just not Cobra well.

 

[s_x_i]

That HP Rating sounds about right. I have a Hemi Magnum and I read that they are a low 14 second car, your buddy's car is probably high 13's. No wonder you stomped his ass

 

[Rochard]

Here's a picture of the event if anyone is interested.....

 

[SINISTER LS1]

The new 5.7 is a wannabe LS1 haha.

 

[nighthawk756]

The 5.7 is 340 HP and 390 ft. lbs. The 0-60 is a claimed 5.4 seconds.

:thumbsup:

 

[grimreefer]

He bought an obese sedan with a mid level engine and expected to put a beat down on a Terminator?! Mock away. :thumbsup:

 

[Traveler]

In the LX sedans:

The 5.7L Hemi is 340hp/390lb.ft as stated with the 300C, Charger & Magnum R/T. There is a modest horsepower increase for a added performance package that adds 10 horsepower for a total of 350 I think. I think the police package gets the 350 horsepower rating. The SRT motor is the more formidable one rated at 425 horsepower. Without a significant power adder, neither should threaten a supercharged Cobra.

As for a lot of good information about the Hemi, go to www.thehemi.com.

This is the article explaining the differences of the new Hemi vs. old design.
http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20020826-1

 

[Rochard]

He bought an obese sedan with a mid level engine and expected to put a beat down on a Terminator?! Mock away. :thumbsup:

LOL. That just made my morning!

 

[Luke_Duke]

Yeah, sounds like he is a tool. It will be interesting to see when the Challenger comes out what it will run. ALthough, i think Dodge made it too portly in the weight department. But, maybe with the SRT motor, it won't be a complete pig, but not Cobra worthy...

 

[Traveler]

But Chrysler isn't going to build the new Challenger to compete against the 03/04 Cobra. The current Mustang, in general, is the moving target and its rather beefy, as well...especially the Shelby GT-500 at near or over 3900 pounds. Of course, I really don't think the 6.1 Challenger will have a chance against the Shelby. Of course, the showcar had the 6.4L Hemi rated at 500/500.

I'm keeping an open mind. Maybe Dodge will have a contender; maybe the Camaro will be as well. If CAFE gets tighter, the next generation Mustang may be the Twin-Force V6 rather than a V8.

 

[Steve@TF]

i had a 300c try to race me from a light yesterday. i didnt realize it right away and wasnt really trying. i then saw that he was actually keeping up with me and i let the hammer down! lol. put about ten car lengths on him in less than a block :rockon:

there are SOooo many charger/300s around here with "hemis" and they think theyre sooo fast, lol. theyre quick, ill give them that. but they obviously have no idea what our cobras are capable of :banana:

 

[Traveler]

Only 'car guys' (and girls) are going to know what lurks under the hood of a Cobra or Shelby or Lightning or SRT Ram. Limited production automobiles are rarely followed by the general public.

 

[exdeath]

but they obviously have no idea what our cobras are capable of :banana:

I don't think most people do. Just another slow sub 199 HP push rod V6 Mustang with some ricey after market snake stuff glued all over it :-D

 

[bobbys97r]

I don't think most people do. Just another slow sub 199 HP push rod V6 Mustang with some ricey after market snake stuff glued all over it :-D

thats what my wife tells me that people just see another slow mustang

 

[BelvedereGTX]

The heads aren't a true hemi. .

would you bet money on that. When you say "true", do you mean not matched up to the "older" deisgn.

 

[PERCULATOR]

This past weekend I drove my Cobra down into Mexico. (Pix and details to follow in the morning.)

Someone I'll loosely call a "friend" drove his Dodge Charger down and was pretty confident his car was faster than mine. I don't usually have such discussions with my friends because most of my friends cars would stomp my Cobra. However, he was pretty much a dick about it. He wanted to race and I was just like "whatever". The next day we were in a little convoy heading out to dinner. We had about ten cars going loaded with people, and we all had walkie talkies. He challenged me and we raced from a rolling start. I ended up pulling away from him so quickly that it was comical. What was even better was that this happened in front of forty of our friends / business associates.

I did a quick search on stats and I'm seeing his 5.7 Hemi having about 320 Horsepower, with a 0-60 in the 6.0 second range? Does this sound correct? Can anyone confirm this before I mock him on a board we both post on?

Also, wasn't there some discussion about how the new "Hemi" really isn't a "Hemi", but more like a totally different engine they called a "Hemi" to make old people buy the car?

Wow, most of your friends would stomp the cobra hugh? What are they driving? Dodge vipers and z06 vettes?

 

[SVT4ME]

My wife's Commander has the 5.7L Hemi engine and it nice. But in either ride your towing a boat.

 

[YesterdayAgain]

The new 5.7 is a wannabe LS1 haha.

It wants to be out of production and no longer used? That seems counter-productive.

Back on topic, no 5.7L Hemi cars have any business attempting to race a 03-04 Cobra without being heavily modded.

 

[LAcop124]

people who drive "hemis" see hp numbers and dont think about power to weight ratios. same thing as people with trucks who think just cause they have a V8 that they can keep up with a mustang.