Couple of electric water pump questions...

Ben99GT

Just a stock GT
Established Member
Joined
May 11, 2002
Messages
743
Location
MS
I do hear a lot about them failing.

But is it the water pump's fault or is it because of the installation?

Mount the relay in a cool place and do a quality wiring job and I believe the chances of failure are pretty low.

You trust your engine to electric fans, after all.
 

1999-COBRA-6661

[S]pecial[V]ehicle[T]eam
Established Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2005
Messages
1,941
Location
Pennsylvania
I have the watter pump already installed I just need to know what size belt I need. Is 2.5" shorter than stock going to work?
 

Janstang

Member
Established Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2008
Messages
980
Location
Rapid City, SD
How much bigger was the stock belt? In the past when I've done projects that required a different length belt I would talk to the parts store and let them know what I was doing. That way if the belt length was off we would just keep trading until I got the right size. Its a PIA, but it worked..
 

99COBRA2881

Piss on Fox Sports1
Established Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2003
Messages
6,307
Location
Kansas
Not worth the risk. The EMP stewart modular water pump claims a 3 HP parasitic loss. At what rpm it doesnt say. 3 HP loss versus a pump that "could" fail at a moments notice.
 

Janstang

Member
Established Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2008
Messages
980
Location
Rapid City, SD
Why would I risk overheating and damaging the motor in my Cobra by using a peace of shit product like an electric water pump?:poke:
Thats the exact response I expected from you.. I'm really surprised you have any aftermarket pieces on your car based off previous comments you've made on here.:burn:
 

STAMPEDE3

SAULS BROTHER
Super Moderator
Joined
Apr 5, 2003
Messages
27,024
Location
South Louisiana
Mines been working great for 7 years now..

Your a lucky one. lol

Looking at some of your post I'd guess your car spends more track time and sitting time than Hwy miles?

In 7 years how many miles is on it.

I don't trust them on street cars. If they fail you don't know until it is hot.

Manual pump can leak. You should find that before it fails completely.
Manual pump can fail or belt pop. You should find this in other ways before the motor gets hot.
Bottom line, Manual pump on these motors are proven reliable for years and years.

I don't trust electric enough.
 

NotOrange...

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2007
Messages
130
Location
Saskatoon
I also hope you have a better experience then I did. I had one, it worked for about 2 months (previous owner installed, and did a decent job except wiring into the main harness) then it burned up. I also would never trust another on a street vehicle. IT still spins freely after burning up, the only way to tell anything was wrong was the guage climb. I tore it apart and it was really bad. Once seeing that I will never trust another one.

Although I could definately tell there was a loss in power after taking it out. the motor climbed the rpm's alot quicker when the Electric pump was in.

Best of luck.
 

Janstang

Member
Established Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2008
Messages
980
Location
Rapid City, SD
I'd say it has about 12,000 miles on it. The car definitely doesn't go on any long distance trips anymore(something about slicks and the glide changed that), but if the weather is good it gets driven to town and to work every chance I get. For drag racing the electric pump is the only way to go. Make a run come back to the pits let the pump run for 5-10 minutes after you've turned the car off and you are ready to make another run. I remember seeing on one of the forums awhile back a guy had rigged up a light to come on in the event of a pump failure and overheat situation.
 

STAMPEDE3

SAULS BROTHER
Super Moderator
Joined
Apr 5, 2003
Messages
27,024
Location
South Louisiana
For drag racing the electric pump is the only way to go. Make a run come back to the pits let the pump run for 5-10 minutes after you've turned the car off and you are ready to make another run.

This I know, I run it myself.

As I said before On a "street car" it simply isn't worth the $ for the 3 extra HP you may pick up and take a chance of failure.
 

quick01snake

Your View
Established Member
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Messages
7,174
Location
O'Fallon, MO
I remember seeing on one of the forums awhile back a guy had rigged up a light to come on in the event of a pump failure and overheat situation.

exactly what I was going to suggest...it would be VERY easy to wire a failure light...you could have the light kick on if the current draw drops to zero (electric motor failure), or if the electric load goes way up (bearing failure)...
 

americanthunder

nuts and bolts
Established Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2004
Messages
296
Location
van canada
A warning light or buzzer is a good idea, I'm looking into it.

you can remove a threaded plug on the block in between cylinders 7/8 and repalce it with a sending unit that can trip off a warning light or what ever you want that requires 12v auto meter makes these,, you can also choose what temp you want the unit to activate I liked in the block for obvious reasons rather than in the cross over tube, mine has been on for two years no issues
 

blacksnake305

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2003
Messages
671
Location
USA
Mines been working great for 7 years now..

I think we only hear about the failures around here. I'd like to know how many they have sold for mustangs in the last 5 years... Lets say its 3000 units. I guess the 3-4 failures floating around these boards don't look so bad.

I've run mine for 2years now with no issues. And my temp rarely goes above 190 degrees... I have no complaints...

installation error (Id10t error) is sometimes to blame... LOOL


PS: and mine is a part time DAILY DRIVER. I commute 50miles round trip every day... I just dont daily drive it in the winter. But from May to Nov, i drive it all the time...

.02
 
Last edited:

TD91GT

Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2004
Messages
162
Location
Glendon PA
that belt size in the other post works with a steeda crank pulley i used it and it worked great. Where did you get your 12 volt key source from?
 

blacksnake305

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2003
Messages
671
Location
USA
exactly what I was going to suggest...it would be VERY easy to wire a failure light...you could have the light kick on if the current draw drops to zero (electric motor failure), or if the electric load goes way up (bearing failure)...


Thats a great Idea. Can someone do a writeup on this? I'm an 'Electrical Noobie' and wouldn't know even where to begin...:shrug:
 

Users who are viewing this thread



Top