Robert M said:What do these mats look like? From what I have read and seen, none of the Cobra R's, 93, 95, 00 came with factory floor mats. There were factory "COBRA" floor mats available through the Ford accessory items, but the Cobra R's only had the plastic on the floor carpet and no mats in the trunk area. The factory floor mats that are regular production 94/95 Cobra, that also are the perfect match for the saddle tan carpet and have a F4ZZ part number on the back. If the mats you have are the F4ZZ COBRA mats in tan, they have been moving up into the $200 area, maybe even more now, depending on who is bidding.
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93SVTCobra said:On the other hand the 4.6L supercharged engine has lots of unique/high dollar parts that would cause you to spend quite a bit of money to duplicate (i.e. forged pistons, crank, H beam rods, supercharger, lower intake, high flowing heads, etc) . Once you piece together the price of these parts it's pretty easy to justify $7500. This motor has tons of HP potential and is currently the hot ticket in the Ford hot rod market as well.
93SVTCobra said:Once again though the only parts that really make that 5.8L engine unique are the intake, headers and valve covers. The rest is a standard 5.8L marine engine with standard GT-40 heads. There is nothing that REALLY distingushes this engine as being positively 1 of the 255 engines once it's in a car. And besides as a museum piece would anyone even care? If I was to put that engine in a car I'd still have a number of unique Cobra R parts missing. If I was going to duplicate that engine I'd pay $1000-$1500 for an intake (if I didn't just turn a 94-95 Cobra intake into one), buy a set of Hooker Saleen headers (pretty much the same without the EGR connection which could be added if absolutely needed) and a set of 94-95 valve covers modified with a longer oil filler neck. Then I'd buy a set of GT-40 heads for $300-$400 and a 5.8L rebuilt shortblock for about $1000-$1500. There's probably another $500 in misc parts on that engine. So total would be about $4500 tops (that's being EXTREMELY conservative).
93SVTCobra said:You're making a huge assumption that you can drop that engine in and have it fire right up after 12 years!
93SVTCobra said:You're making a huge assumption that you can drop that engine in and have it fire right up after 12 years!
Robert M said:True^^^^^^^, but even if it did need freshening, at least it is all there to reassemble. To be honest, I doubt that it would fire right up, I wouldn't chance damaging something. I would think that to be safe at least the heads should be removed to inspect the cylinder walls, probably pull the pan also. It would be a shame to go through all of the trouble to install the engine and then have to take it right back out, but like I said, at least it is all there to start with.
Did you notice the engine lift bracket bolted to the front drivers side in the turned-down position. I would guess that bracket is not an easy item to come by, as it is usually removed when the accessory bracket is installed. I also noticed the engine lift bracket on the right rear. Is that bracket left on the 95R engines? I have not noticed it on mine, but I have not looked for it.
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Cobra R Man said:Sitting like that, and cars that sit in garages for long periods of time, with the engine in one possition with some valves open, lose pressure. Plus the valve seats get moisture on them, so when you would start it, it would beat the rust (from the moisture) into the seats and not seal well.
I would, at minimum, replace the valve springs or at least check them for proper pressure. Someone could look through the exhaust port to see if the valves and seats need touching up. Didn't all these 252 or 255 engines receive the "HOT" test from Roush? If this one did, there should be a little exhuast carbon also.
Another thing to think about. What if this engine didn't meet the Roush spec's?
I wouldn't put any engine in my car that has been sitting, without disassembly and inspection.
FWIW
A little more than the usual $.02. Oh well.:shrug: ;-)
I agree, Gene.Cobra R Man said:I wouldn't put any engine in my car that has been sitting, without disassembly and inspection.
I'll assume that this engine was built for display purposes. It never had any lubricants (except possibly assembly lubricants). The rings have been pressed against the cylinder walls for 12 years (in the same position). The pistons will need to be carefully removed and new rings installed. The cylinder walls need to be inspected.This engine was on display at the plant,it is new and it was never used in any of the 250 Cobra R cars that were built.
1995COBRA-R said:The orphan engine didn't sell at $4850. I wouldn't have bid $2500. Why buy an orphan engine for that money when you can buy an entire 1 of 250 car for ~$24K?