Catch can fills up super fast!

[Blkkbgt]

Do some research.

I have two sets of sohc valve covers sitting in my garage. One set is off my 03 GT, the other is off of a crown vic. Neither of them have any sort of oil deflection or way to allow oil to drip off of the ceiling of the cover onto specific areas of the valve train.

So with that said how about you post up your research because the proof I have sitting in my garage is pointing in another direction.

 

[WheelStander]

There's info out there based on experience regardless of your analysis of your valve covers.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Funny you say that because I did a couple of quick Google searches and found nothing, imagine that.

My analysis of my covers is simply to point out that if the stock pieces don't have it then the tfs covers don't need it either and therefore can't be causing valve train failures. If that were the case said mentioned Google searches would have turned up at least a few threads with some credible information regarding the claimed issue.

 

[WheelStander]

There is info and you need to know how to dig and know what you're looking for.

Just info I provided and op can do with it what he wants to.

You seem to take this personally, not really a big deal.

Also, when I had my GT I was going to buy a set, did a ton of research and did run across mamny threads across many forums, took me about 2 weeks to go through everything and decide it was a bad road to go down, so that is when I ran across threads dating from 2002-2014 or there abouts. And I don't remember any info on the TF revision levels. So, just another variable.

And, obviousl;y if they have a kit for oil deflection....uh, that's proof right there.

 

[Blkkbgt]

There is info and you need to know how to dig and know what you're looking for.

Just info I provided and op can do with it what he wants to.

You seem to take this personally, not really a big deal.

Also, when I had my GT I was going to buy a set, did a ton of research and did run across mamny threads across many forums, took me about 2 weeks to go through everything and decide it was a bad road to go down, so that is when I ran across threads dating from 2002-2014 or there abouts. And I don't remember any info on the TF revision levels. So, just another variable.

And, obviousl;y if they have a kit for oil deflection....uh, that's proof right there.

Fist off its not personal by any means. I simply think you're spewing bs with zero proof.

Second the baffle you speak of is NOT for deflection it's simply there to help keep the oil from exiting the cover(s). If that were the case it would run the entire length of the cover and would direct oil to specific areas.

So again post up some proof please.

 

[WheelStander]

Facebook hero?

 

[Stanger00]

There is info and you need to know how to dig and know what you're looking for.

Just info I provided and op can do with it what he wants to.

You seem to take this personally, not really a big deal.

Also, when I had my GT I was going to buy a set, did a ton of research and did run across mamny threads across many forums, took me about 2 weeks to go through everything and decide it was a bad road to go down, so that is when I ran across threads dating from 2002-2014 or there abouts. And I don't remember any info on the TF revision levels. So, just another variable.

And, obviousl;y if they have a kit for oil deflection....uh, that's proof right there.

I been on the forums following 2 valves since 2003 and have owned my 2 valve since 2002. I have yet to see any valve train failures that are related to TFS valve covers. I don't see how they will restrict some misty oil vapors from lubricating components adequately.

What would change my mind if there is some data over word of mouth to prove what you are saying. What authority are you? You engineer valve covers to distribute oil over valvetrain components?

If I were going to inform others of possible issues and they ask for further information I will provide it to them and not shrug them off and say to research it yourself. That is no help to others.

As I said before I have been around all of the forums related to the new edge for a long time and I have done enough reading on TFS to make my eyes bleed but I have not seen a thread or a post that says their 2 valve covers destroy motors.

The only thing that makes sense about lack of lubrication is due to it being sucked into the intake and the drivers lack of oil level checks before beating on their car repeatedly.

Please, post a link to a thread that states what you're spreading is true.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Facebook hero?

Hardly. I don't even have a FB account if you must know.

Your repeated refusal to post up one single shred of evidence backing your claims and obvious lack of knowledge regarding what the baffle is in place for does nothing but cement my stance that you are simply spreading BS.

The funny part of all this back and forth is that you have most likely put more time into replying to me with additional BS then it would have taken to find this elleged evidence you keep claiming is out there.

I guess I'll just wait for the next lame comment, sigh.

 

[Blkkbgt]

The only thing that makes sense about lack of lubrication is due to it being sucked into the intake and the drivers lack of oil level checks before beating on their car repeatedly.

Please, post a link to a thread that states what you're spreading is true.

You would have to be down over a quart for that to happen. How low exactly Iam not sure but the 2v once had a 5 Qt or 5.5 Qt (can't remember which) pan. So iam guessing around 4.5 Quarts in the pan down 1.5? That's a shit ton of oil to go into a catch can let alone into the intake. Yikes.

 

[Stanger00]

You would have to be down over a quart for that to happen. How low exactly Iam not sure but the 2v once had a 5 Qt or 5.5 Qt (can't remember which) pan. So iam guessing around 4.5 Quarts in the pan down 1.5? That's a shit ton of oil to go into a catch can let alone into the intake. Yikes.

Exactly, pure neglect will be the cause of an engine failure. If you have a supercharger, aftermarket cams, heads and valve covers the least you can do is check oil level when you put fuel in the damn car. If you can't do that then you brought on a blown motor yourself.

 

[WheelStander]

Listen I simply posted up what I'd read on previous forums if you didn't find the same thing that I found that's not my fault.

Not gonna spend amount of time digging up the crap that I dug up last time researching these when I wanted to buy them if you want to dig that deep spend a few weeks and look around.

And you think driving around losing oil helps your engine come on man.

Check some engineering documents that's where you can start and that's all I got for you.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Listen I simply posted up what I'd read on previous forums if you didn't find the same thing that I found that's not my fault.

Not gonna spend amount of time digging up the crap that I dug up last time researching these when I wanted to buy them if you want to dig that deep spend a few weeks and look around.

And you think driving around losing oil helps your engine come on man.

Check some engineering documents that's where you can start and that's all I got for you.

Just because you read it somewhere does not mean you should repeat it, especially if it does not make sense and you don't know what you are talking about.

So we are back to "you do the research if you don't belive me" BS. I figured as much.

Nobody said loosing oil is a good idea either. Iam not sure where you got that from.

Engineering documents? On what? From where? Did you find these on the same forum(s) that had these alleged valve train failures? Now I'm feeling like any Google searching will essentially be looking for unicorn tears, i.e. pointless.

 

[Stanger00]

Listen I simply posted up what I'd read on previous forums if you didn't find the same thing that I found that's not my fault.

Not gonna spend amount of time digging up the crap that I dug up last time researching these when I wanted to buy them if you want to dig that deep spend a few weeks and look around.

And you think driving around losing oil helps your engine come on man.

Check some engineering documents that's where you can start and that's all I got for you.

I don't bother to look because you linked Corral and I'm a member there and the thread you posted I'm apart of.

You can't find the thread to prove you right and I will not look for anything because what you stated doesn't make sense to me at all.

If someone's engine broke because lack of lubrication to the valvetrain that is due to neglect.

The valve covers do have a baffle issue. The baffle is too small and doesn't have enough mesh material to collect oil vapors before they are pushed out by crankcase pressure. Having a PCV system hooked up exacerbates this issue. TFS knows about the problem and tried to fix it but since OP has the latest revised covers it appears they still do not perform well with PCV system.

The engineering document is from me. I brought that TFS has published baffle drawings on their website for install purposes. They have revision letter and dates on it because they have made improvements to install procedures and part design with those revision. This last sentence is my guess.

Since I have early covers I lost quite a bit of oil with PCV system. Once deleted consumption went way down. At the current rate it could use up 1 quart in ~3k miles. I'm ok with that and I hope that it gets better once I get the larger baffle installed.

I have no worries of my valvetrain failing. If it were going to fail it would of done it at the track with multiple 7k rpm runs down the 1/4 mile and my 160 mile round trip drive to the track.

 

[WheelStander]

I guess you would need to be a mechanical engineer to understand how to research engineering documents...take your piissing contest to fb.

 

[Blkkbgt]

I guess you would need to be a mechanical engineer to understand how to research engineering documents...take your piissing contest to fb.

Again I don't have a FB account.

Sorry but it's not a pissing contest when someone is flat spewing BS and gets called on it.

Just for fun I actually read over that entire "engineering document" and wouldn't you know there is NOTHING in there regarding reduced lubrication of the valve train let alone "oil deflection".

When will you be done grasping at straws? Oh let me guess "do some research" right?

 

[ben_gone]

it sounds to me like dude has some bad seals or something. if the can is filling up the first thing I look for are the blower seals. they load up catch cans quick when they go bad. if the blower checks out, id take apart the heads to check seals and do a compression check on the bottom end for grins also.

 

[WheelStander]

Blk, I stated my info if you cant except it and do some learning on your own that is your issue.

Stop trolling me and get a life. While you were getting all fired up being a keyboard warrior, I was out with a smokin hot Twin Peaks bartender.

So go outside away from your dark little room and stop living live to troll.

Althouth you seem like this might be your niche in life, more power to ya then I guess. Lol

Same goes for anyone else trolling me.

 

[Stanger00]

it sounds to me like dude has some bad seals or something. if the can is filling up the first thing I look for are the blower seals. they load up catch cans quick when they go bad. if the blower checks out, id take apart the heads to check seals and do a compression check on the bottom end for grins also.

OP has one of those tiny clear plastic oil/water separator things not a giant moroso breather tank hooked up as a separator.

OP didn't say he had a blower. I do. My Vortech is fine. Owned it since 2005 and it was rebuilt in 2011 when I built my motor. It's the valve covers. It's a known issue. Some are worse than others.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Blk, I stated my info if you cant except it and do some learning on your own that is your issue.

Stop trolling me and get a life. While you were getting all fired up being a keyboard warrior, I was out with a smokin hot Twin Peaks bartender.

So go outside away from your dark little room and stop living live to troll.

Althouth you seem like this might be your niche in life, more power to ya then I guess. Lol

Same goes for anyone else trolling me.

So asking for proof of a BS statement is now trolling?

I honestly don't care what kind of life you think I have nor do I care what you did last night. All I'd like to see is a shred of proof/evidence to back up your statements. Instead you waste time going back and forth in an attempt to place everything on me instead of posting a link to at least one valve rain failure.

No this is not my niche or mission in life, sorry to dissapoint. I simply call BS when I see it because stuff like this benefits nobody in the thread or anyone who finds it later.

 

[Blkkbgt]

I wonder how much that baffle upgrade works? It's a shame because imop these are the only decent valve covers for sohc engines.