Cam shafts in 96 Mystic Cobra?
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i just got my stock cams degreed. I cant justify that much for a set of bump sticks. Its alot of work too. Buying aftermarket cams is just not the route I wanna go. To each their own tho, there are benefits to it.
Right, the cost is just really turning me away from doing this. I want to give the car some more power on the motor. I don't want to S/C it or put a turbo on it. Any gains with degreed cams?
Youll only see about 20-30 hp gain....... not worth 2k+ in my book.
I paid 775 for used cams and 350 for springs and I picked up 35rwhp. So when you compare that to 800 for exhaust and only pick up 10-15rwhp I'd said its not that bad of a bargin. I did the install myself and didn't degree them. Best bet is to find cams used.
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That makes sense. If I could find a deal on a set with springs I'd be more inclined to do it. I have heard some cam'd 4 valve cars and they sound downright nasty. There is no way I could installl them myself. So I have to factor in labor...what kind are you using?
I'm using comp 106460's.
agreed, heck most longtubes are like 500 bucks, plus 450 for a catted x or h pipe, and then another 300 for a catback and you got 1250 invested right there and no one has installed them yet. Most people can install an exhaust but those longtubes sure make you work for it. You got a nice deal though on cams and springs, I hope I can find one that good.
Yes, you can see around 20-25 hp by degreeing them. na svt did mine and ran me through the hole process while I watched/ fetched tools for him. Aftermarket cams deff have their advantages, however not cost effective enough for me.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/how-278/694387-camshaft-degreeing.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/how-278/380813-4v-camshaft-degreeing.html
Theres some good readin up here ^. Check it out.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/how-278/380813-4v-camshaft-degreeing.html
Theres some good readin up here ^. Check it out.
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Not even close. Here's the deal on degreeing, the stock cams are all over the place and some are so far off that degreeing them can result in a substantial power gain. Degreeing B head cobra cams can also raise tq by 30ft lbs or more depending on how far you advance them.
Stock lobe centers are 119/110, this is good for peak power, good MPG, low emissions and poor mid range and tq. Advancing the cams to 114/114 increases mid range/tq and does not reduce peak power. Advancing them further, to 110/118 raises mid range and tq even more and starts to affect peak power production. The poor stock cam timing is the only reason these engines need 4.56 gears.
Aftermarket cams are further off than stock cams and should always be degreed. Not degreeing them can result in giving up as much as 20hp. Most aren't off that much but there are still good gains to be had by degreeing.
Why spend $1200 on cams and not degree them to ensure the most power possible/
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Did you notice any gains after you did all that work? I'd be ticked if I went through all that and didn't get anything.
I set his cams up so that it makes more Mid range hp and tq and to make peak power at 6000. I don't expect a big gain in peak power.
So, your really just changing the powerband by doing this. Not really "gaining" more power?
It depends on where I set them. I can degree them for more peak power but the car may end up slower. It will also require a 4.56 gear to get the most out of it.
Peak power isn't everything unless you want to have bragging rights, but that doesn't win races.
Degreeing only ensures your combo makes the most power possible in area of the powerband where its wanted.
I haven't ran the car since, however I have no question in my mind its helps. As soon as I do I will let you know.
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