Boss vs Shelby

[manOwar]

I've had the time to run two tanks of gas through the Boss... My thoughts are it's a great car.... But, the GT500 in my case is the winner!!

The Boss is great on the road, it pulls hard and sounds good. But, it's weak until it hits 5k RPM's... At 5k, she pulls hard but not like the GT500.

The GT500 with the KB is king!! The Boss is all stock and my GT500 makes just under 1000hp..... But, the Boss does not have the potential to get there in my opinion.... it's the wifes car for sure!

 

[BOOSTD5.4]

If you go twisty, the Boss is hands down better vs the GT 500, especially the 07-09's, stock to stock.

With the Evolution KB Boss laying down north of 800 WHP, it may be a different game as well.... in the straight line.

Mike

 

[12C/OBoss]

The Boss is great on the road, it pulls hard and sounds good. But, it's weak until it hits 5k RPM's... At 5k, she pulls hard but not like the GT500.

But, the Boss does not have the potential to get there in my opinion.... it's the wifes car for sure!

read this Someone's Boss...with a Kenne Bell and 18psi!! Could it be mine?? - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

oke:I believe if you had a KB on your Boss you would feel completely different:coolman:

BTW the only thing my car needs is a lowered and stiffer stance, some gauges, and projector style HID lamps like from GT500 and it would be my perfect car:beer:

If you are ever near PA you are welcome to come for a test drive btw...but only if i can come check out all your crazy stangs!!

 

[MaximumVelocity]

The BOSS with the KB is king!!

Fixed for you...your wife's car will be faster than your GT500!oke:

 

[TXPD]

faster is often dependant on conditions. road course or drag strip. short and twisty road course like mid ohio or full throttle long road course like vir or road america.

frankly i am not sure what the value of 1000whp is in a street car anyway, but thats just me.

 

[908ssp]

Did you read the KB article? It makes the 400+ with race fuel. Plus we have no idea how long that motor will last because it is not built as strong as the GT500 motor is.

 

[BANDIT HPT]

Did you read the KB article? It makes the 400+ with race fuel. Plus we have no idea how long that motor will last because it is not built as strong as the GT500 motor is.

How is it not as strong?

 

[12C/OBoss]

Did you read the KB article? It makes the 400+ with race fuel. Plus we have no idea how long that motor will last because it is not built as strong as the GT500 motor is.

how is it not as strong. Read the article about the road runner engine in 5.0...it's a very stout motor. All forged internals and the ability to rev to 7500 on a daily basis.:banana:

Now mine, on the other hand...:shrug: We will see how she lasts!! I rev it to only about 7000 btw, no need to go to 7500 anymore. I am getting it dynoed next week with the detuned 11 psi and Lund's super ultra safe track day tune( very low timing advance, fans on 100% at 170, etc) on 93 with a little Torco to be safe:beer:

 

[MaximumVelocity]

Did you read the KB article? It makes the 400+ with race fuel. Plus we have no idea how long that motor will last because it is not built as strong as the GT500 motor is.

You think the OPs GT500 makes 900-1000hp on pump?:bs:
And the Road Runner motor is plenty strong, just how long it will last at crazy power levels is anyone's guess. But there is no denying that with boost they are at least as capable as Condor motor and handle better out of the box.;-)

 

[chuckstang]

the boss is putting down much better 1/4 times with much less hp and mods not to mention beating them on the road course as well.

Plus, as far as hp goes the boss can take it as well so I think you can keep trying to tell yourself GT500 > Boss but the stats just don't justify it :/

You are biased because your GT500 is making like you said stupid power

 

[ac427cobra]

My 2007 Shelby GT500 was a great car, I loved it. But on the track, it was like wrestling a Hippopotamus. That car did NOT want to go around corners. But................it would go in a straight line like hell wouldn't have it!

The Boss 302S has about 100 less RWHP and weighs approximately 500# less. The cornering capability of the S compared to the GT500 is like comparing apples to sheet metal screws. No comparison. On identical tires and hotter ambient temps for the Boss, the Boss beat the Shelby's best Road America lap time by five seconds.

Weight is a buzzkill on the track.

FWIW

:thumbsup::coolman::beer:

 

[redline]

faster is often dependant on conditions. road course or drag strip. short and twisty road course like mid ohio or full throttle long road course like vir or road america.

frankly i am not sure what the value of 1000whp is in a street car anyway, but thats just me.

hmmmm i think 1000 hp is only equal to bragging rights .

 

[cloud9]

My 2007 Shelby GT500 was a great car, I loved it. But on the track, it was like wrestling a Hippopotamus. That car did NOT want to go around corners. But................it would go in a straight line like hell wouldn't have it!

The Boss 302S has about 100 less RWHP and weighs approximately 500# less. The cornering capability of the S compared to the GT500 is like comparing apples to sheet metal screws. No comparison. On identical tires and hotter ambient temps for the Boss, the Boss beat the Shelby's best Road America lap time by five seconds.

Weight is a buzzkill on the track.

FWIW

:thumbsup::coolman::beer:

My "street" Boss is already 2.62 seconds faster than my GT500 on the big course at BIR and I'm giving up 200 RHWP in the Boss at only 300# less!

 

[manOwar]

read this Someone's Boss...with a Kenne Bell and 18psi!! Could it be mine?? - The Mustang Source - Ford Mustang Forums

oke:I believe if you had a KB on your Boss you would feel completely different:coolman:

BTW the only thing my car needs is a lowered and stiffer stance, some gauges, and projector style HID lamps like from GT500 and it would be my perfect car:beer:

If you are ever near PA you are welcome to come for a test drive btw...but only if i can come check out all your crazy stangs!!

Deal, I was one of the cars headed to PA for the magazine shoot in 07 for the fastest GT500 in the county.... We'll get there again or you can come south and show us what you got....

Fixed for you...your wife's car will be faster than your GT500!oke:

I'm sure it will.... but not if I'm funding it!!:lol:

the boss is putting down much better 1/4 times with much less hp and mods not to mention beating them on the road course as well.

Plus, as far as hp goes the boss can take it as well so I think you can keep trying to tell yourself GT500 > Boss but the stats just don't justify it :/

You are biased because your GT500 is making like you said stupid power

Chuck, you never fail to impress me with you knowledge!!! How's the GT doing?

My 2007 Shelby GT500 was a great car, I loved it. But on the track, it was like wrestling a Hippopotamus. That car did NOT want to go around corners. But................it would go in a straight line like hell wouldn't have it!

The Boss 302S has about 100 less RWHP and weighs approximately 500# less. The cornering capability of the S compared to the GT500 is like comparing apples to sheet metal screws. No comparison. On identical tires and hotter ambient temps for the Boss, the Boss beat the Shelby's best Road America lap time by five seconds.

Weight is a buzzkill on the track.

FWIW

:thumbsup::coolman::beer:

Bruce, you are correct. However, I don't get to drive like you do. I lived overseas watching your vids driving the GT500..... the whole time I could not drive mine. I have no doubt the Boss will out handle the GT500 but I like raw power!! Ya know?

hmmmm i think 1000 hp is only equal to bragging rights .

You sir, are correct!!! Care to line up?

 

[chuckstang]

Boss>gt500

 

[manOwar]

Boss>gt500

Yes sir!! The trouble is, which one do I drive tomorrow?

 

[Fastlane Cobra]

Just out of curiousity, how does the SVT Performance Package GT500 compare in the handling department to the Boss Mustang? Both of these cars from what I unserstand turn over 1.0g on the skidpad. I have seen the road test comparisons and most of the results show that the GT500 is marginally faster but has much more power. We know it is heavier.

I like the GT500 a bit more as a car to live with daily because I like electronic gadgets, navigation, etc but I still live to drive on the track. I don't like the manufacturer to decide for what my car is intended. The Boss's role has been decided for you......focused for the road course and lack comfort options.

What does the GT500 give up to the Boss?

 

[93SVTCobra]

Kind of a silly comparison in the first place as you are comparing stock to modified. Take that out of the picture and you are still comparing apples to oranges. Both are great cars in their own rights.

 

[chuckstang]

Yes sir!! The trouble is, which one do I drive tomorrow?

boss! be the boss! lol

 

[Nathan'sTsi]

the boss is putting down much better 1/4 times with much less hp and mods not to mention beating them on the road course as well.

Plus, as far as hp goes the boss can take it as well so I think you can keep trying to tell yourself GT500 > Boss but the stats just don't justify it :/

You are biased because your GT500 is making like you said stupid power

Maybe better quarter mile times relative to horsepower, but I am pretty sure the fastest tire only GT500 is a good bit faster than any tire only Boss.