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I can't seem to find the article but i read that the G35 GTR is going to wind up costing 80K plus.
350Z Owner..."You blew me out of the water"
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I test drove a 350Z last year (I was shopping for my dad's Bday gift), and frankly I didn't get it. It's slow, cramped, noisy, and expensive. My father had a '89 300ZX TT, and at the time that car made perfect sense. In 2003, the 350Z doesn't add up. For the money a Cobra is a far better choice, and if I wanted a 2-seater with top handling, a C5 is (these days) only a few $K more.
FWIW, I ended up getting my dad a WRX Wagon. 4WD is a much better choice for snowy New England anyway...
FWIW, I ended up getting my dad a WRX Wagon. 4WD is a much better choice for snowy New England anyway...
Good kill!
Nice story. I think Nissan may have to create their sports cars with a V8 if they expect to be more competitive. Perhaps Nissan may have a different perspecitve among sports car enthusiasts and the Z's V6 engine being nicely engineered. But look at Ford what they had to do with its 03 Cobra having placed a supercharged 4.6 liter vs. a 3.5 liter is obvious in its math. Give me a break.
If nissan does come out with a TT Z, it could be (though it might not be) as fast as the procharged Z's. And if it is pretty close to a supercharged Z, then I believe you'll have a pretty close race:
http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52162
I totally agree; and Nissan has a great V8 -- the 340hp VQ45DE motor (Q45, M45). But I imagine that the VQ45 would detract from the current Z's handling abilities, which are exceptional. I pressume Nissan wanted a good balance of power and handling abilities. If they wanted a muscle car, the parts are there. IMO, they should create a limited production musclecar variant (i.e.: 450Z Track model) with the 4.5L V8. I'm certain it would be quicker than the current Z's low 14s, in light of the addl 53hp. But a TT setup on the VQ35 should take care of that.
...a like I've repeated often here. SC 4.6L V8 versus NA 3.5L V6; head-to-head, you race what you brung. But, speaking in generalities and theoreticals, the math is clear.
Also, what is the maximum stock HP/TQ output of any version of the Ford 4.6L V8 in NA form? (serious question)
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Most output in a production model 4.6?
Probably the Mach 1 version 4.6 dohc
Ford says it is 305 hp but it is more like 320-330hp.
You also need to remember something called torque!
EDIT: (didn't realize you had also asked about torque. Again, Ford rated it at 320 ft/lbs. but this has also found to be way too conservative!)
Just MHO
Probably the Mach 1 version 4.6 dohc
Ford says it is 305 hp but it is more like 320-330hp.
You also need to remember something called torque!
EDIT: (didn't realize you had also asked about torque. Again, Ford rated it at 320 ft/lbs. but this has also found to be way too conservative!)
Just MHO
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Actually, based off of dyno results, just about as much as the LS1 (The Mach1's DOHC 4.6 as Mustang Freak has pointed out)
In 05 the Mustang GT will come standard with about the same power output that the Mach1 has now and that will be out of a N/A 4.6 as well.
Good kill, nothing like advertising..:beer:
The VK45DE has 340hp NA with torque rated @ 333lb-ft OR more than enough to run the Z through traps slightly quicker than the current V6 287hp/274lb-ft config. And like Ford, Nissan's HP/TQ numbers tend to be gray areas (i.e.: 5sp Altimas running very low 14s w/ "240-245hp" OR the fact that the 260hp G35 Sedan 6sp runs nearly as quick as the 287hp 350Z) .
You see, unlike Honda, Nissan knows how to generate torque out of their engines. Reference their VK56 motor (Pathfinder Armada/QX56) that generates a normally aspirated 305hp/385lb-ft); BTW where's the current Triton V8 @ with lb-ft. ;-)
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The G35 has 280hp though doesnt it?
I will say though, if it did or does have 260hp, that would be a pretty hefty underrating by infiniti because the 350Z which has 287hp weighs about 400lbs less than the G35 does.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I drove a 350z and could swear the the 287hp that it puts out would not be enough to keep up with my old 5.0 rated at 215, with a OR H and Flows in the quarter.
Those small 6's just don't have enough low end torque.
After driving the 350 and the Cobra, it was a no brainer!
You might look more sophisticated in the Z, but it just doesn't have the gnads the Cobra does!
Those small 6's just don't have enough low end torque.
After driving the 350 and the Cobra, it was a no brainer!
You might look more sophisticated in the Z, but it just doesn't have the gnads the Cobra does!
Well many of us have different expectations when it comes to performance with cars or any particular interests . The 350z is fun to drive while the 03 Cobra has monsterous power and also a lot of fun to drive. Check out this link of a twin turbo 350z video. Just click on videos and right click download 350z Twin turbo. Maybe this should be a closer match against a 03 cobra assuming it's stock.
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