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2015 short block?

Discussion in 'Engine/Tuning' started by Brad59, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. vortecd

    vortecd Well-Known Member Established Member

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    The point is you can't get a '14 shortblock so people are asking if a '15 will work. This thread is to answer questions what is needed to, if possible, to put a production '15 shortblock or longblock in a 11-14 mustang. With the angle of the filter there were questions if it would fit. Seems that question has been answered since it has been done. As far as the longblock goes do you just need to change the cams? Again question that people are asking and hoping someone has answers

    Question like this are going to keep coming up so any if not all answer will help in the future

    I was all set to buy the Aluminator shortblock at Christmas and found out they were gone. At that time with going to the new block and different filter angle I didn't know if it would go in my car. That is why we need a thread to answer what is needed
     
  2. vortecd

    vortecd Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Cost. Most people will not build a 800+ car so if the production '15 shortblock works they won't max it out
     
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    466roller Active Member Established Member

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    Yes you can put a complete '15 motor or longblock in an 11-14. You would need to change the cams and phasers to 11-14 design. This is why it's a good option for those that already have an 11-14 motor
     
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    Flcracker Active Member Established Member

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    What is the price difference between a 2015 stock GT shortblock and the 2011 -2014 Alluminator short block?
     
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  5. Brad59

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    I think the 15 short block was about 2 grand from another thread on here. The aluminator in the link above was about 6700 i think. Buying the 15 short block and throwing a set of forged pistons in it doesn't seem like a bad idea. They are both 15 blocks now so just a different oil filter setup and plug a hole on the block from what I understand. And transfer everything over from your 11-14.
     
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  7. vortecd

    vortecd Well-Known Member Established Member

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    The Aluminator shortblock could be bought for under $4500 on sale from a few places at the end of the year, maybe again this year. The '15 production shortblock looks to be around $2000 but there is a $500 core charge. More attention to detail with the Aluminator and you get forged pistons and billet oil pump gears. Something to think about
     
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  8. Flcracker

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    It's a no-brainer.
     
  9. vortecd

    vortecd Well-Known Member Established Member

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    this is a quote from MMR:

    "When the 15 engine is used in a 11-14 the 3rd oil hole on the side of the block must be plugged (they can be drilled and tapped for a NPT plug"

    I haven't seen any pictures of a '15 block so I'm not sure what this 3rd hole is
     
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    zinc03svt Big Red Established Member

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    People have made 900 plus whp on the stock 15 plus pistons (motor) btw. I know personally a twin turbo car that has a lot of passes still on stock motor. For someone looking for 700-800 whp on a 11-14 car the 15 short block is way to go.
     
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    Looks like that is the way I am going.
     
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    Flcracker Active Member Established Member

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    If you push over 800 Whp I think you have an expensive time bomb on your hands. I would save and pay extra for peace of mind if it's not your daily, personally.
     
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    So for 2k - 2015 short block and then reusing my stock heads + cams - and the most I'd have to do is plug an oil hole galley?
     
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    The 11-14 stock short block has made over 1000rwhp. It won't last at any where near those power levels, and neither will the 15 short block. If you're going through the trouble of swapping engines, put in a short block with real forged pistons and rods that will handle boost for the long run.
     
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    I will be happy at 725-750whp. Can't afford the high $$$ short blocks.
     
  19. Flcracker

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    Well said. If it's not your daily driver then be patient and save up. Using your block MPR will add Manley rods and Pistons including labor for 3,295 which is good for 900 Whp all day if you should ever want it. Oh and you most likely will eventually want it and wish you had built it stronger.
     
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    I agree. I'm just thinking for the guy that wants to keep power at 700 or so or has grenaded his short block this is a pretty good option.
     

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