Some people think the new mustang is actually priced high. The packaging specifically. I thought I read the test mustang used here was around $46k. That's quite a lot for an "every man's car". More than my boss new. Lol
Some people think the new mustang is actually priced high. The packaging specifically. I thought I read the test mustang used here was around $46k. That's quite a lot for an "every man's car". More than my boss new. Lol
Im glad you test drove it. Interior is just like a mustangs, many different options and trim levels (entirely subjective stuff). Was it a 1SS, 2SS? What options did it have? While I agree it can be challenging to adjust to visibility and ergonomics, once you do, its an amazing machine. I sweated just like you described in the beginning but after about two weeks the car felt just as friendly in this area as a family sedan.
I take it you really liked its handling? Did you get the chance to push it a little?
I did push the ZL1 and the 1LE quite a bit in a straight line and on some twisties with bumps. Both of them had impressive turn in and stopping power and were dampened really nicely. The precision on the turn and planted feeling on exit was really confidence inspiring but I'm pretty confident they were both slower in a straight line than my 13 GT, unfortunately for me I actually DO track my car in more than just a straight line. The 1LE was 1SS but the ZL1 had literally every option, even the sunroof. The Recaros were nice but they made me sit up too high so that my hair was brushing the roof even when I adjusted it all the way down (I'm only 5'10"). Both of them felt really bare on the inside, all hard plastics and to my surprise as I said previously the 1LE felt stronger than the ZL1 to me. I chuckled and informed the salesman that I could hear clearly audible pinging coming from the ZL1 and asked if they put in 87 octane, he of course said yes lol. I could see myself really enjoying both of those cars on the track but really not enjoying them for day to day stuff. Since I do DD my car and only hit the track 2-4 times a year I dont think the Camaro is for me. That said I also went and took a look and sat in a new S550, and although plush on the inside the outside just really didnt do it for me. It seemed so.... I dont know the word to use other than... Wimpy?
Also would like to point out that when filled with low octane fuel, these car's ECU will default to a low performance map for the safety of its motor. Unfortunately, this change is not undone once the car gets premium again. You have to actually reset the computer by pulling a couple of fuses out overnight. Otherwise, you will go around with a low performance map controlling your car's output (feeling of low performance).
I got next to a black ZL1 at a light on the way into work this morning. It looks enormous, but it's a sharp, mean looking car. I guess the bigger wheels and tires make it look even bigger than the regular Camaros to me. I would've given him hell, but I didn't want to embarrass him in the 2012 Fiesta.
Are you sure it doesn't reset when you fill up the gas tank? That is the strategy GM used on the LS6 (at least 5 gal fill). Makes no sense to assume that one tank of 87 means low octane for the rest of the car's life. I see a long-ass thread on this at Camaro5 so who knows.
Regarding the ZL1's poor performance during the test drive, I would think that, combined with the low octane fuel, that with hot weather, lots of A/C use with lots of idling prior to the test drive, probably shot up IAT temps (and underhood temps in general). No wonder it drove like crap.
That also had every single option on it, starting with a premium package. "Every man's car," with the PP can be had for mid 30s, which is much more "reasonable." The base price of the mustang has not raised nearly as much as the overall quality and improvement of the vehicle has. I'd say we're still coming out ahead. I saw a few 5.0s optioned out to $50k give or take when those first hit the lots a few years ago.
Are you sure it doesn't reset when you fill up the gas tank? That is the strategy GM used on the LS6 (at least 5 gal fill). Makes no sense to assume that one tank of 87 means low octane for the rest of the car's life. I see a long-ass thread on this at Camaro5 so who knows.
Based on all the research that I have done on the subject, it does not re-set on its own(its a fault in the car), you have to pull the fuses in order to get the performance map and make sure to mantain the tank fuel of premium.
Problem is you can't really buy a base model. All the dealer profit is in options too. So if you want a new mustang with a stereo and nav then you're gonna pay a lot. That's the oldest car selling trick. Lol
Fords mission is to make this anyone's car but for mid-40's nicely equipped that's a hard sell for just anyone in my opinion. It's still just a stang.
The ECU should auto correct over time as it detects higher octane fuel. However it takes more than just one tank of premium to correct this. The fuse pull method is like a hard reset. It just speeds up the process.
I don't get the tire sizes on the 15. Everyone talking about 255's but the rears are 275's. Seems weird to me or am I nuts?
I don't get the tire sizes on the 15. Everyone talking about 255's but the rears are 275's. Seems weird to me or am I nuts?
Problem is you can't really buy a base model.
They should had opted for a squared setup. 275 all around.
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I was very confused as to why they ran the narrower tires on the front since they've never done that on a GT before.
What is that based on? I saw base 13-14 GTs at every dealer here when they were new. You can absolutely get a base. If they don't have one they'll get you one either through dealer trade or special order. But there will be base models everywhere in every color.
And if you say that's Ford's mission then you must agree it's Chevy's too, because their options are no cheaper. Nothing about the Mustang is more expensive than the competition. Period.