1st Amendment protected activity or Thugs that deserve handcuffs?

gimmie11s · Aug 4, 2023

DaleM said:
I doubt anyone is going to die over this ordinance. I wonder if he just shouted would he have been ok. Even protests usually require permits in various zoned areas.

Agree.

I think the point of the original post is there is an obvious blind eye being turned to some groups' speech, but not others.

And law enforcement, unfortunately, appears to blindly follow directions.

And the boot lickers like our resident midget-gamer (lol, a gamer as an adult male) support it. (or maybe not, because now he is back pedaling).

IDK, the world's gone mad.

cidsamuth · Aug 4, 2023

gimmie11s said:
All I need to know about your level of understanding with that post. Doesn't quite work the way you think it does, bud.

There are literally countless examples below with precedence.

Ordinances Held Unconstitutional

Ordinances Held Unconstitutional of the US Constitution: Analysis and Interpretation

law.justia.com

LOL, many laws, ordinances, and exec orders are eventually found unconstitutional, you uneducated moron. That doesn't change that the authority to enact those not found unconstitutional flows from . . . the Constitution.

You sound like you just can't make it through reason and logic when it interferes with your erroneous worldview. It's sad.

Look, I'm not happy this pastor was arrested and that the left can swing their genitals in our children's faces. But, those LEOs you hate so much? They don't like it much either.

Rb0891 · Aug 4, 2023

Any reason they could not have just said “Bro, you can’t do this”? Maybe they did. I don’t know but they came off awful assholey on this one.

DaleM · Aug 4, 2023

Rb0891 said:
Any reason they could not have just said “Bro, you can’t do this”? Maybe they did. I don’t know but they came off awful assholey on this one.

All that mandatory Progressive training linked to promotion points.

DaleM · Aug 4, 2023

Oh, @Klaus
This is why all the ladies are moving to Florida. They love our fat fingers.

TAF · Aug 4, 2023

Rb0891 · Aug 4, 2023

DaleM said:
All that mandatory Progressive training linked to promotion points.

Probably. My BIL is always bitching about the bs they have to go through.

gimmie11s · Aug 4, 2023

cidsamuth said:
But, those LEOs you hate so much? They don't like it much either.

Just doing their jobs, right?

gimmie11s · Aug 4, 2023

TAF said:

Imagine being some fool in this thread saying what these LEO did was just fine. Just another day at work.

Crimson2v · Aug 4, 2023

TAF said:

This is infuriating. It’s unfortunate to see the police behave in this manner.

cidsamuth · Aug 4, 2023

gimmie11s said:
Imagine being some fool in this thread saying what these LEO did was just fine. Just another day at work.

Interesting. I don't think any of the anti-anti-LEOs here said it was just fine.

You argue like a liberal; fabricate and misdirect to stir emotion so that you can ignore the logic and facts of a debate.

I'm a follower of Christ, and, if I was a cop, I would walk away from any pension before making that arrest. Doesn't mean your anti-cop rhetoric isn't stupid.

Rb0891 · Aug 4, 2023

cidsamuth said:
Interesting. I don't think any of the anti-anti-LEOs here said it was just fine.

You argue like a liberal; fabricate and misdirect to stir emotion so that you can ignore the logic and facts of a debate.

I'm a follower of Christ, and, if I was a cop, I would walk away from any pension before making that arrest. Doesn't mean your anti-cop rhetoric isn't stupid.

Likewise the anti anti LEO people go apeshit when one brings up any of these issues. I am old enough to remember a bunch in here excusing Uvalde police. Sure many times everything is not known, but this shit needs to at least be pointed out and discussed.

ZYBORG · Aug 4, 2023

Rb0891 said:
Likewise the anti anti LEO people go apeshit when one brings up any of these issues. I am old enough to remember a bunch in here excusing Uvalde police. Sure many times everything is not known, but this shit needs to at least be pointed out and discussed.

Id like to know whom here, “excused“ Uvalde’s Covardes….

Sure, bad police behavior needs to be pointed out. But only when you have all the facts. There are certain individuals who‘s MO is just to shit on cops without having all the facts. They operate on emotion and division. It reeks of agenda.

Its always the same people.

I might agree with the kids on the sidewalk message but you cant fault the cops for doing their job. Perhaps they were given orders, perhaps kids were in violation of some ridiculous rule, perhaps they were being disruptive of some other assembly, perhaps the kids had already been warned repeatedly. I dont know…. Its obvious that we dont have all the facts on that scenario. This is just a short clip. Edited to invoke emotion.

If there is one thing Ive learnt, is that I am not gonna condem police without watching the entirety of the interaction and having full context of the situation.

gimmie11s · Aug 4, 2023

cidsamuth said:
Interesting. I don't think any of the anti-anti-LEOs here said it was just fine.

You argue like a liberal; fabricate and misdirect to stir emotion so that you can ignore the logic and facts of a debate.

I'm a follower of Christ, and, if I was a cop, I would walk away from any pension before making that arrest. Doesn't mean your anti-cop rhetoric isn't stupid.

Go back to page one. There are more than one condoning this behavior.

Actually, just look at the blow-hard in post 73.

And by the way... id challenge you or anyone here to quote me as saying "all" cops are bad. Never once said that. Dont believe that, never will say that. You've got me confused with someone else.

Pretty sad you can't even read the whole post to get context of what is being said. You are blinded by your point of view.

Rb0891 · Aug 4, 2023

ZYBORG said:
Id like to know whom here, “excused“ Uvalde’s Covardes….

Sure, bad police behavior needs to be pointed out. But only when you have all the facts. There are certain individuals who‘s MO is just to shit on cops without having all the facts. They operate on emotion and division. It reeks of agenda.

Its always the same people.

I might agree with the kids on the sidewalk message but you cant fault the cops for doing their job. Perhaps they were given orders, perhaps kids were in violation of some ridiculous rule, perhaps they were being disruptive of some other assembly, perhaps the kids had already been warned repeatedly. I dont know…. Its obvious that we dont have all the facts on that scenario. This is just a short clip. Edited to invoke emotion.

If there is one thing Ive learnt, is that I am not gonna condem police without watching the entirety of the interaction and having full context of the situation.

There were several (albeit fairly early when not everything was known) arguing about tactics and such that kept them from going in while some little dbag was blowing kids heads off.

I agree facts can and many times do change the initial perception.

ZYBORG · Aug 4, 2023

Rb0891 said:
There were several (albeit fairly early when not everything was known) arguing about tactics and such that kept them from going in while some little dbag was blowing kids heads off.

I agree facts can and many times do change the initial perception.

I know there were a few on that thread, but if I am reading you correctly, you said in regards to this thread “a bunch in here”…

I dont believe anyone here defended Uvalde PD.

ajaf1656 · Aug 4, 2023

Defending cops in general because they're not all bad is like defending the catholic church because there were some priests who didn't rape kids. Sorry, but if your organization prioritizes protecting the scumbags within it over serving its intended purpose, it's a complete failure.
I am and always have been a patriot, someone who puts a high value on rule of law and an orderly civilized society. Nobody told me how to feel about cops. The narrative that shaped the way I feel about them is my own experience.
I still know some really good people who are cops, but I don't have any automatic feeling of respect toward a group of people who have abused me.

gimmie11s · Aug 7, 2023

ajaf1656 said:
Defending cops in general because they're not all bad is like defending the catholic church because there were some priests who didn't rape kids. Sorry, but if your organization prioritizes protecting the scumbags within it over serving its intended purpose, it's a complete failure.
I am and always have been a patriot, someone who puts a high value on rule of law and an orderly civilized society. Nobody told me how to feel about cops. The narrative that shaped the way I feel about them is my own experience.
I still know some really good people who are cops, but I don't have any automatic feeling of respect toward a group of people who have abused me.

100% well said.

Like any gov agency -- its due to a lack of accountability. Low accountability breeds incompetence, corruption, and a poor public view of said .gov agency.

I can guarantee if there was no qualified immunity AND/OR LEO who screwed up are held to account in a very public way, threads like this wouldn't even exist.

Corbic · Aug 7, 2023

ajaf1656 said:
Maybe if he did a drag queen strip show whilst reading the Bible, they'd have been okay with it. lol

Where is that meme

"Let's convert the childern!"

"Yaaasssss!"

"To Christianity"

"Reeeeeeeeeeeee"

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