Funny, the 2 guys that i have known years that work in 2 different auto companies and specifically EV tech have literally said the same thing.
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Funny, the 2 guys that i have known years that work in 2 different auto companies and specifically EV tech have literally said the same thing.
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Its pretty sad that those that know the most about EVs would say that. My brother works at GM. They have to cut $3Billion out of their budget for next year to move towards EV tech. They are currently taking voluntary layoffs, but will move to full layoffs later this year.
Like every other facet of life today, msm only shows it readers/viewers what they want you to believe.
Just another piece of the reset puzzle.
Its importance lies in implementing total travel tyranny.
BTW, the chynese battery mfrs were not courted by Youngkin. He saw their plan.
Yet gretchin' whitmer got right down on her knees to get those plants in MI. No surprise.
Literal insanity does not slow down Greenies one bit, they are literally trying blow the system up. Are they going to build a power plant at every single ****ing truck stop in America??????? This is what is driving the EU's hydrogen push for trucking.
I like watching 401 heavy rescue and I am trying to imagine what they would do with a EV semi with 2 to 4 8,000 pound battery packs burning. What would shutting down one side of the 401 for a couple of days while it burns be like? Would they just let people drive through the toxic plume coming off the truck? Roll your windows up and hold your breath. Tow companies have to wear hazmat suits? The lawsuits will be epic!
I like watching 401 heavy rescue and I am trying to imagine what they would do with a EV semi with 2 to 4 8,000 pound battery packs burning. What would shutting down one side of the 401 for a couple of days while it burns be like? Would they just let people drive through the toxic plume coming off the truck? Roll your windows up and hold your breath. Tow companies have to wear hazmat suits? The lawsuits will be epic!
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I recently rented a Plaid to feel what all the hype was about. It is definitely an INSANE ride, I honestly can’t imagine anything being quicker at a streetlight.
BUT, it was a huge pain in the ass car. In Plaid mode it gets terrible range, like literally, 50 miles. On top of that, you can feel it getting significantly slower as the battery discharges. So you really have a small window where the car is at peak performance, then you have to sit around and wait for it to charge.
I rented it out in AZ, charging was another frustrating aspect. All of the superchargers were taken, so I had to sit around for 20 minutes for a soot to be open then sit around for another 30 minutes while it charged. Incredible waste of time.
Then there’s the car itself, for a $120k+ sedan, it has awful handling and braking, a cheap feeling interior and the navigation is quirky as ****. There’s no android auto or carplay so I was looking at my phone for directions.
Everything is controlled by the screen, the car went into standby mode and the ****ing door handles won’t come out. Oh and running the AC drains the charge. The autopilot went full ****ing nazi on me too - it would disable autopilot for the “reminder of the ride” because I removed my hands from the wheel too many times lol.
All in all, it was a fun experience, just because, man, when it’s charged…holy shit is it quick. But outside of that, big
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BUT, it was a huge pain in the ass car. In Plaid mode it gets terrible range, like literally, 50 miles. On top of that, you can feel it getting significantly slower as the battery discharges. So you really have a small window where the car is at peak performance, then you have to sit around and wait for it to charge.
I rented it out in AZ, charging was another frustrating aspect. All of the superchargers were taken, so I had to sit around for 20 minutes for a soot to be open then sit around for another 30 minutes while it charged. Incredible waste of time.
Then there’s the car itself, for a $120k+ sedan, it has awful handling and braking, a cheap feeling interior and the navigation is quirky as ****. There’s no android auto or carplay so I was looking at my phone for directions.
Everything is controlled by the screen, the car went into standby mode and the ****ing door handles won’t come out. Oh and running the AC drains the charge. The autopilot went full ****ing nazi on me too - it would disable autopilot for the “reminder of the ride” because I removed my hands from the wheel too many times lol. All in all, it was a fun experience, just because, man, when it’s charged…holy shit is it quick. But outside of that, big
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Rivian R1T Fender Bender Turns Into $42,000 Repair Bill
Story by Nico DeMattia • 2h ago
Rivian R1T Fender Bender Turns Into $42,000 Repair Bill© Provided by The Drive
Back in February, Rivian R1T owner Chris Apfelstadt was rear-ended in a pretty low-speed fender bender. The rear bumper looked a bit damaged but nothing too serious. However, after taking it to a certified Rivian repair shop, Apfelstadt said the total repair cost was an eye-watering $42,000.
According to Apfelstadt, the other driver's insurance company estimated the repair cost to be $1,600 and sent Apfelstadt a check. However, when he took his Rivian to one of only three certified shops in central Ohio, the repair bill was just a bit higher than that. The shop allegedly gave Apfelstadt a detailed cost breakdown, documented every step of the repair, and provided photos for proof. The $42,000 repair cost, along with Apfelstadt's rental car cost, was very close to maxing out the other driver's $50,000 insurance payout limit.
Rivian R1T Fender Bender Turns Into $42,000 Repair Bill© Provided by The Drive
"The biggest story here is that what appears to be a minor accident on the surface can be much more costly to fix. The truck is designed [to] absorb the impact to limit injuries to the driver and passengers. So in the event of a collision, they need to inspect a lot of parts to make sure they were not damaged," Apfelstadt told The Drive. "I understand the total repair cost is shocking, but the shop followed the book written by Rivian!"
One of the photos that Apfelstadt posted to Facebook, which is said to be from the repair shop, shows a completely disassembled bed, devoid of any body panels, and even missing its rear glass.
"The back quarter panel was damaged and that piece goes all the way from the tailgate to the front windshield," Apfelstadt told us.
However, Redditor and fellow Rivian R1T owner Earlgr3yh0t was also rear-ended a few months back, except their rear quarter panel had a basketball-sized dent just below the taillight. They took the R1T to a certified Rivian body shop who said the entire rear quarter panel, as well as some tailgate internals, needed replacing. The total cost of replacing an entire body panel and some tailgate bits was reportedly just over $14,000. So a $42,000 rear bumper replacement seems exorbitant, but Apfelstadt says he's happy with his truck.
"The shop did a really good job. The body, the paint, and every detail looks exactly like it did when the truck was brand new. These guys are experts in EVs and while I'm sure another shop may have done the work cheaper, I don't think anyone could do it better," he said.
Sounds like a piss poor unibody design.
From the article title, I expected the battery got damaged and melted a bunch of electronics.
From the article title, I expected the battery got damaged and melted a bunch of electronics.
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Isn't just this EV company, lots of articles out there about insurance companies totaling out low mileage EV's from all companies because of hideous repair costs.
Why should insurance be forced to pay for a piss poor design? All of our insurances will get a big increase if this is allowed to be payed out.
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Does anyone know if EV's are more costly to insure at this point due to these kinds of issues? Or is it still to new to show up in the actuary tables?
Way more. Tesla forced to subsidize insurance by offering it to its customers.
Well good. At least the dumbasses are generally paying for it.
there are no EV front load garbage trucks because they're so heavy they have to have extra axles to be legal and that's before dumping their first container. The industry already loses a ton of trucks to batteries that get thrown in trash cans and ignite inside the truck. I'm sure all that incinerating trash is very green
Yes it's significantly more. My boss and a lady on my team both got Tesla Model Ys a month or so ago. They were both shocked to find out their insurance would be going up over triple (coming from roughly 8 year old Lexus ES350 and Camry V6, respectively).
Side note, after driving with both of them, I was shocked at how badly these cars ride. I didn't expect these turds to feel like my wife's Range Rover or my Raptor, but I didn't expect my lowered Explorer ST to feel like a Rolls comparatively. Tesla must have used an 1800s covered wagon as the suspension benchmark.
No, insurance for that specific model should go up.
Dodge Challenger and Honda Odyssey owners do not pay the same rates. A Lamborghini Aventador is astronomically more expensive to insure then a used Chevy Silverado, Etc.
Repair Cost × Payout Frequency = your customized rate.
This may be the only thing in recent memory that makes sense to me.
So they went from cars worth ~$10k to a car worth $50k and their insurance went up?
No way.
There are people trying to educate our government dummies. I think the facts fall on dumb brains.
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