ID injector hp numbers

94slowbra1 · Dec 8, 2022

So I don't think my 1050x injectors are up to the task of 24-25lbs from my gen 4 crusher, 10.5 comp, TW cams, pump E70... I switched over to a stock size lower to keep things in check. I have a dyno appt set but would hate to dyno with low boost because fuel can't keep up. So I'm debating about new injectors and upping the boost.
So, guys that run either the id1300 or id1700, where do these max out? $2400 for the 1700 is big $$$$. But I don't want to short myself with the 1300s if they will be at their limit.
Thanks for the input

MG0h3 · Dec 8, 2022

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Think he’ll know. He’s gonna be in the 8s pretty quick

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03' White Snake · Dec 8, 2022

I run 1050x’s now, 22 psi makes 822/764. I tried 26 psi but was having alternator issues so I couldn’t make a full hit. I’ll be shooting for 900+ on my setup. I run a base pressure of 55 to squeeze more out of the injectors. Not sure how far they will really go.

I was also told you can’t make 750 on 80’s, I was making 785 on them before upgrading to the 1050’s. So tough to know what to believe. Call your tuner and ask what they recommend.

Interested in seeing what your setup puts down.

94slowbra1 · Dec 8, 2022

So I spoke with him and he's on the same level as me, the 1050x isn't going to cut it at 25+ lbs. So I went down to a stock lower that should get me right around 19 or so. I'm sure the car makes plenty in this configuration but that's not why I built it.
I know every car is different, just trying to see what people make with what injectors

MG0h3 · Dec 9, 2022

94slowbra1 said:
So I spoke with him and he's on the same level as me, the 1050x isn't going to cut it at 25+ lbs. So I went down to a stock lower that should get me right around 19 or so. I'm sure the car makes plenty in this configuration but that's not why I built it.
I know every car is different, just trying to see what people make with what injectors

I’d get 1300s. I mean 1700s is a pretty serious fing street car.

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TitanSvt · Dec 9, 2022

I'm running 1050's at 22lbs with no issues. Car made 891/790tq on a stock lower, 3.00 upper

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Albatross · Dec 9, 2022

A good option to look into would be the FIC 1440s. Just as good as ID and you don’t have to pay for the ID name. Just a suggestion.

GNBRETT · Dec 9, 2022

If u have a good tuner I would just go with the 1700's. They can tune 1300's on pump gas just as easily as they can 1700's.

I originally went with 1300's and the duty cycle was too high for my combo so I wasted a lot of money there smh and ended up buying the 1700's.

Newer Whipple's would max out the 1300's. I would give urself room to grow.

With 1300's u will be at nearly maximum duty cycle around 1100 whp on E85. A little better on C16.

94slowbra1 · Dec 9, 2022

MG0h3 said:
I’d get 1300s. I mean 1700s is a pretty serious fing street car.

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While I agree here I dont want to do this again if I decide to up boost or change blowers again

TitanSvt said:
I'm running 1050's at 22lbs with no issues. Car made 891/790tq on a stock lower, 3.00 upper

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That's encouraging. Seems like 825ish is typically where the max out. What pressure and duty cycle?

Albatross said:
A good option to look into would be the FIC 1440s. Just as good as ID and you don’t have to pay for the ID name. Just a suggestion.

I thought about a different brand just have a hard time not going with what is so widely used. I'll check them out though

GNBRETT said:
If u have a good tuner I would just go with the 1700's. They can tune 1300's on pump gas just as easily as they can 1700's.

I originally went with 1300's and the duty cycle was too high for my combo so I wasted a lot of money there smh and ended up buying the 1700's.

Newer Whipple's would max out the 1300's. I would give urself room to grow.

With 1300's u will be at nearly maximum duty cycle around 1100 whp on E85. A little better on C16.

This is what I'm afraid of, maxing the 1300s and then decide to go with more boost and needing to do this again. I'll talk to the tuner to make sure but I believe he said any set of IDs were fine with him

01yellercobra · Dec 9, 2022

FWIW, I'm tuning a 2JZ with FIC 775's and they're pretty good. A friend of mine will be running 1440's soon. Granted these are of stand alone systems, but the injectors are still pretty decent IMO.

ITSTOCK · Dec 9, 2022

I’m well into the 8’s already, and not even close to being where the car will end up boost and tune wise.

88% duty cycle on 1650’s with a more mild build than you at 28 pounds, but with the gen 5 3.0. Probably 1500ish crank. Base pressure at 43, so no bandaids.

Get the 1700’s, no driveability difference between the 1300 and 1700’s, no having to bump the bae pressure, and you won’t have to swap them out again. Actually, for the price just get the FIC 1650’s like me. Budget wise they make the most sense.

E70 will give you a little leeway at least.

94slowbra1 · Dec 9, 2022

How is the tunability and drivability with the FIC 1650s? They are about $1000 less that the ID1700 so these seem interesting if they have good drivability and tuning.

ITSTOCK · Dec 9, 2022

Equally as good.

Albatross · Dec 9, 2022

I’m running the FIC 1440s with a standard 2.9 at 21psi and E85. Stock ECU. Tuner had zero issues with them. Drivability is great.

I contacted FIC a while back when I was shopping for injectors. They use the same Bosch injectors that ID uses. All with stainless internals just like ID. Also has a lifetime warranty against manufactures defects. The guys there were extremely knowledgeable and helpful. Good customer service goes a long way with me so I decided to go with the FICs. Good luck in your search bud.

q6543 · Dec 9, 2022

Excellent thread and info!

94slowbra1 · Dec 9, 2022

Spoke with a vendor, the FIC price is nice too.
I'll talk with my tuner and see what he has to say about them.
The 1440s would be the route I would take. A little more breathing room over the 1300s but still manageable for a street car

03 Cobra DSG · Dec 9, 2022

I’m running FIC 2150’s I got them at a killer price brand new, I am on Holley and running one ethanol full time. Tuner had no issues at all and drivability is fine. If your on Holley they have plug and play injector data.

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94slowbra1 · Dec 9, 2022

Still on factory ecu. I will talk to the tuner to see what he says.

badcobra · Dec 12, 2022

03 Cobra DSG said:
I’m running FIC 2150’s I got them at a killer price brand new, I am on Holley and running one ethanol full time. Tuner had no issues at all and drivability is fine. If your on Holley they have plug and play injector data.

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This is a good point and something I have brought up often over the years. The price of a set of ID1700's is nearly $2500 which is absolutely outrageous. You can get a set of Bosch 210's for about $600-700 which are what nearly all the 2000cc injectors are built around with fancy cases, laser etching, spacers, and huge price markups. FID2000, FIC 2150, ID2000's etc are all Bosch 210's.

Instead of spending that crazy amount of cash on injectors, roll that money is a standalone computer system. You are so limited with the stock PCM and you cannot build any safeties in that can save you countless thousands of dollars and time if something happens. I prefer Holley because that is what I run, but literally any aftermarket option is better than the stock computer.

94slowbra1 · Dec 12, 2022

badcobra said:
This is a good point and something I have brought up often over the years. The price of a set of ID1700's is nearly $2500 which is absolutely outrageous. You can get a set of Bosch 210's for about $600-700 which are what nearly all the 2000cc injectors are built around with fancy cases, laser etching, spacers, and huge price markups. FID2000, FIC 2150, ID2000's etc are all Bosch 210's.

Instead of spending that crazy amount of cash on injectors, roll that money is a standalone computer system. You are so limited with the stock PCM and you cannot build any safeties in that can save you countless thousands of dollars and time if something happens. I prefer Holley because that is what I run, but literally any aftermarket option is better than the stock computer.

Oddly enough a local tuner suggested the bosch 210s to me. They just sounded like way too much fuel and I wasn't sure who else would tune them should I decide to change tuners.
I have never considered a new computer system. May look into it and see what it can do.
I know your car hauls the mail, what injectors do you run?

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