E85 whats needed

[utfan98]

You mean anything over 800 I hope....is 753 on a race gas tune? If so, 753 x .08 = 813 for 70 degree temps. The other question is the room temp going to be 70 or 50. This all adds up my friend. According to the Dallas Stars you will see 753 + 105 = 858.

Vador be careful being in IL/midwest (per your sig location) this time of year. You will most likely be getting E70, not E85 at the pump, even more likely in one month. This will be dead winter.

I would not tune a car in the the Midwest unless you can confirm that the dyno room is 65-70 throughout Dyno-ing and considerig quality of fuel lower now (E70 unless you have a fresh stash of E85). You may have to bring a graduated cylinder and test the fuel.

 

[plan b]

that would be a good deal. But another thing to remember about running 110(if it is leaded which i am assuming it is) is that it will destroy your wideband sensor in about 2 minutes of idling and it ruin's your exhaust tips, and also makes a mess of your bumper. Which is another few reasons i am switching over to E85.

Seeing that I have 1300 miles of the 110 mix with zero issue's makes it a moot point. I have no problem with it. No worry's. 5 to 6 gallons 110 to every 9 to 10 gallons of 93 works for me.

 

[utfan98]

that would be a good deal. But another thing to remember about running 110(if it is leaded which i am assuming it is) is that it will destroy your wideband sensor in about 2 minutes of idling and it ruin's your exhaust tips, and also makes a mess of your bumper. Which is another few reasons i am switching over to E85.

You can get get unleaded 110 race gas.....

Overview
Sunoco 260 GT™ 100, which has the highest octane rating of any street legal fuel, is now available at selected retail locations.
Sunoco 260 GT 100 is designed for high performance street cars, muscle cars, classics, street rods, motorcycles, karts and marine applications. Sunoco 260 GT 100 contains no metallic compounds to harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors. It contains a comprehensive additive package for greater engine protection and reduced fuel system deposits. Sunoco 260 GT 100 is also compatible with virtually all two-stroke synthetic and mineral based motor oils.



Sunoco 260 GT 100 Unleaded is available at selected locations throughout the U.S. In certain areas, Sunoco 260 GT 100 Unleaded is available under the CAM2 GTTM 100 label.



So the cats, O2 (narrow and wide band) and all other vulnerable parts are spared just like it says. Still a PITA and the station is 7-8 miles from my house. This is a rarer find than E85.

 

[04sleeper]

Sunoco 260 GT™ 100, which has the highest octane rating of any street legal fuel, is now available at selected retail locations.
Sunoco 260 GT 100 is designed for high performance street cars, muscle cars, classics, street rods, motorcycles, karts and marine applications. Sunoco 260 GT 100 contains no metallic compounds to harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors. It contains a comprehensive additive package for greater engine protection and reduced fuel system deposits. Sunoco 260 GT 100 is also compatible with virtually all two-stroke synthetic and mineral based motor oils.
Sunoco 260 GT 100 Unleaded is available at selected locations throughout the U.S. In certain areas, Sunoco 260 GT 100 Unleaded is available under the CAM2 GTTM 100 label.

Funny you mention Sunoco 260 GT 100. That is the exact fuel skaarew04SVT switched from when he made the switch to E85 and picked up that power! It is $6 per gallon here VS $2.

 

[plan b]

Funny you mention Sunoco 260 GT 100. That is the exact fuel skaarew04SVT switched from when he made the switch to E85 and picked up that power! It is $6 per gallon here VS $2.

Post up you're driving habits and mileage. If you only get 140 to 150 miles per tank it's not worth the extra bullshit.

 

[utfan98]

Reasons for running E85: gains of 100-110 RWT/RWHP over your current race gas tune, Performance and Saftey Margin on a boosted engine, doesn't ruin you exhaust tips, does not make a mess of your bumper, the petroleum indutry is the NUMBER 1 MONEY MAKING BUSINESS IN THE WORLD!!!! and you burn cleaner and help the enviorment too. Anything else????

 

[utfan98]

Funny you mention Sunoco 260 GT 100. That is the exact fuel skaarew04SVT switched from when he made the switch to E85 and picked up that power! It is $6 per gallon here VS $2.

Dude, did you sniff too much polishing compound when you were doing your catback????


He posted up reasons that we all know about ill-effects of leaded 110, I posted that there is such a thing as unleaded 110. Did skaarew04 *uck up his cats?, sensors?, valves? when running GT fuel. That was the reason for the post, if he did, sue Sunoco. We understand by now that the switch to E85 improves power. Gotta get back to the bench and Google search more.

 

[plan b]

Are the e85 peeps scared to post up the mileage per tank of fuel? I'm thinking it's around 140 to 150 miles per tank with my driving habits but who knows, nobody posts up specific info. Let's just say it's 160 miles per tank it's not worth the bullshit, lol.

 

[04sleeper]

Post up you're driving habits and mileage. If you only get 140 to 150 miles per tank it's not worth the extra bullshit.

Real intelligent post! Full of facts. :rollseyes

Dude did you sniff too much polishing compound when you were doing your catback????
He posted up reasons that we all know about ill-effects of leaded 110, I posted that there is such a thing as unleaded 110. Did skaarew04 *uck up his cats?, sensors?, valves look good? when running GT fuel. That was the reason for the post, if he did, sue Sunoco. We understand by now that the switch to E85 improves power. Gotta get back to the bench and Google search more.

Wow! Just when you thought the intelligence level couldn't get any lower.

I never said anything about GT260 messing up anything, just that E85 made WAY more power on the same boost! Just funny, that's all.

BTW: Sunoco GT 260 is only 100 Octane. Not 110. Maybe you do need to go back to Google. (Even though it didn't help you here) You just keep digging your ditch the more you post. I would quit if I were you.

 

[plan b]

Real intelligent post! Full of facts.

Post up you're damn mileage e85 poster boy. I'm trying to get "FACTS" from you. Instead of fist pumping you're 100 horsepower midrange gains give me you're driving habits and FUEL ECONOMY (MPG PER TANK OF FUEL). Until then you fail :bs:

 

[blowngt]

Post up you're damn mileage e85 poster boy. I'm trying to get "FACTS" from you. Instead of fist pumping you're 100 horsepower midrange gains give me you're driving habits and FUEL ECONOMY (MPG PER TANK OF FUEL). Until then you fail :bs:

I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm trying to understand your point here??

So what if you get 150 miles per tank?? Performance of C16 at a fraction of the cost?? I don't see any downside here. Even if there were no performance gains to be had over 93, 100, 110, whatever....I don't see the downside of running it??

You want fuel milage, you're in the wrong forum.......

 

[plan b]

I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm trying to understand your point here??

So what if you get 150 miles per tank?? Performance of C16 at a fraction of the cost?? I don't see any downside here. Even if there were no performance gains to be had over 93, 100, 110, whatever....I don't see the downside of running it??

You want fuel milage, you're in the wrong forum.......

If you don't see a downside to it than forget about it and post up in one of the nfl threads in the smackdown forum and while you're at it set up you're car for e85 and post you're fuel economy:lol: I didn't buy my cobra for fuel economy but it boils down to the math. It's not worth it to me to change. If you want to do it that's great, post up you're real world results if you do. I know people that have done it with different cars and end up at the gas station refilling alot more.

 

[utfan98]

Sunoco GT 260 is only 100 Octane. Not 110. Maybe you do need to go back to Google. (Even though it didn't help you here) You just keep digging your ditch the more you post. I would quit if I were you.

I'm digging a ditch to plant your corn.....sorry yes 100, not 110. The POINT of the post that you missed and thought was funny was the unleaded discussion...

Anyway, I think I made my point. I will just repeating myself. Maybe our discussion will be helpful to some....

 

[utfan98]

One last thing here, Plan B you're so right. I am catching what your are pitching. These corn-als will get their E85, get the dyno number, cruise 95% of the time, 4% of time polishing their wheels and exhaust, and 1% on some highway looking for a "kill". Wait until they get 5K on the clock, fill up a few hundred times at selected stations, the closest station goes out of business, this will become passe, the fire goes out, just like getting sick of filling nitrous bottles.....I am sure they are all keeping their 93 tunes in their X-cals.....later

 

[serper3]

Post up you're driving habits and mileage. If you only get 140 to 150 miles per tank it's not worth the extra bullshit.

this is helarious. i average 180-220 miles per tank depending on were i am driving and how aggressive i feel like being. e85 is cheaper than whatever mix of race/pump that you are using, and you will make more hp. so you complain about driving to the pump more? really? just carry an extra tank or two in you trunk when you go to fill up. they have them in different sizes you can have 2 2.5 gallon tanks in your trunk leave em at home if you want, keep one in the car always w.e this way you should be able to have your 200 miles per tank or w.e you want to do. this is just such a ridiculous thing to bitch about i cant believe it. if this simple thing discourages you from making alot more power for cheaper, maybe this IS the wrong forum for you. if you want to be green, get a tesla.
speaking of being green, whats up with the whole relation to fossil fuel stuff? no one ever made a comment saying that we should run e85 because its better for the enviornment.
and utfan98, to help you with your time allocation.. you guys running race gas will be working 40% of the time to afford the race gas, cruising 40% of the time, bitching about e85 5% of the time and loosing to 4 bangers running e85 the other 5% of the time. :-D

 

[blowngt]

this is helarious. i average 180-220 miles per tank depending on were i am driving and how aggressive i feel like being. e85 is cheaper than whatever mix of race/pump that you are using, and you will make more hp. so you complain about driving to the pump more? really? just carry an extra tank or two in you trunk when you go to fill up. they have them in different sizes you can have 2 2.5 gallon tanks in your trunk leave em at home if you want, keep one in the car always w.e this way you should be able to have your 200 miles per tank or w.e you want to do. this is just such a ridiculous thing to bitch about i cant believe it. if this simple thing discourages you from making alot more power for cheaper, maybe this IS the wrong forum for you. if you want to be green, get a tesla.
speaking of being green, whats up with the whole relation to fossil fuel stuff? no one ever made a comment saying that we should run e85 because its better for the enviornment.
and utfan98, to help you with your time allocation.. you guys running race gas will be working 40% of the time to afford the race gas, cruising 40% of the time, bitching about e85 5% of the time and loosing to 4 bangers running e85 the other 5% of the time. :-D

Nah, you know I think he's right. I think I'll stick to my C16 and pay 7x more for fuel because I'll use 30% less. It's all about the fuel economy.

Makes sense right.......:lol:

 

[utfan98]

12 posts Tard.....since you singled me out.....did you read the all posts?

Forget it, appears you have ADD. Look at at my sig about running race gas....go back to the show and shine forum. 93 Octane and race gas are the same right?

I like your summary of tme LOL...did you have the majority of your high school classes in a portable with 5 other students?

 

[plan b]

this is helarious. i average 180-220 miles per tank depending on were i am driving and how aggressive i feel like being. e85 is cheaper than whatever mix of race/pump that you are using, and you will make more hp. so you complain about driving to the pump more? really? just carry an extra tank or two in you trunk when you go to fill up. they have them in different sizes you can have 2 2.5 gallon tanks in your trunk leave em at home if you want, keep one in the car always w.e this way you should be able to have your 200 miles per tank or w.e you want to do. this is just such a ridiculous thing to bitch about i cant believe it. if this simple thing discourages you from making alot more power for cheaper, maybe this IS the wrong forum for you. if you want to be green, get a tesla.
speaking of being green, whats up with the whole relation to fossil fuel stuff? no one ever made a comment saying that we should run e85 because its better for the enviornment.
and utfan98, to help you with your time allocation.. you guys running race gas will be working 40% of the time to afford the race gas, cruising 40% of the time, bitching about e85 5% of the time and loosing to 4 bangers running e85 the other 5% of the time. :-D

you must drive like ms. daisy. Hey kook, i don't care who runs e85. I'm not going to. end of story. As far as a 4 cyl beating my car, sure their out there but I've never seen one. My eaton car no nitrous would probably surprise some whipple cars out there.

 

[serper3]

12 posts Tard.....since you singled me out.....did you read the all posts?

Forget it, appears you have ADD. Look at at my sig about running race gas....go back to the show and shine forum. 93 Octane and race gas are the same right?

I like your summary of tme LOL...did you have the majority of your high school classes in a portable with 5 other students?

Wow, way to be grown up and have a debate. do you have any other personal insults or was that it? i was talking about running a mix of race gas in general, u know, hypothetically, like others on this thread do...

and i singled you out? are you kidding me? i responded to your post. what a crazy concept, you post in a thread on a forum, and someone responds to what you said!

and i only have 12 posts... wow good job great observation skills.. i am not a post whore, but i have had a mustang since 2003.

you must drive like ms. daisy. Hey kook, i don't care who runs e85. I'm not going to. end of story. As far as a 4 cyl beating my car, sure their out there but I've never seen one. My eaton car no nitrous would probably surprise some whipple cars out there.

see, its simple. you dont want to get e85. personal reasons i understand no one is going to twist ur arm to get it trust me. just trying to discuss what is keeping you guys from going that route it...

as far as i am concerned for me, its a no brainer. i need to upgrade my fuel system anyway, i might as well go with big enough injectors, 2 gt pumps, bap, etc so i can run e85. if i can push even high 600 whp with the whipple on e85 i will be ecstatic :banana: even if you compare the difference $$ between enough fuel mods for pump and the fuel stuff will need for e85, vs cost for cams? probably spend same amount if not more on the cams, but push significantly more hp with e85 and still retain driveability...

no kidding though about the fast 4 bangers though. we have a few of them in the bay area... 500-700 awhp in a 2200-2900 lbs car is no joke.

 

[plan b]

Wow, way to be grown up and have a debate. do you have any other personal insults or was that it? i was talking about running a mix of race gas in general, u know, hypothetically, like others on this thread do...

and i singled you out? are you kidding me? i responded to your post. what a crazy concept, you post in a thread on a forum, and someone responds to what you said!

and i only have 12 posts... wow good job great observation skills.. i am not a post whore, but i have had a mustang since 2003.



see, its simple. you dont want to get e85. personal reasons i understand no one is going to twist ur arm to get it trust me. just trying to discuss what is keeping you guys from going that route it...

as far as i am concerned for me, its a no brainer. i need to upgrade my fuel system anyway, i might as well go with big enough injectors, 2 gt pumps, bap, etc so i can run e85. if i can push even high 600 whp with the whipple on e85 i will be ecstatic :banana: even if you compare the difference $$ between enough fuel mods for pump and the fuel stuff will need for e85, vs cost for cams? probably spend same amount if not more on the cams, but push significantly more hp with e85 and still retain driveability...

no kidding though about the fast 4 bangers though. we have a few of them in the bay area... 500-700 awhp in a 2200-2900 lbs car is no joke.

my fuel system is already upgraded, 1/2" stainless tubing from front to rear with a little hose on each end. 3/8" stainless tubing return line with a little hose on each end to be installed soon when I get around to dropping the fuel tank.