Street Racing gone BAD

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This is not to say that a lot of us don't push the speed limits or engage in some spirited driving on the highway but that is a far cry from engaging in street racing stupidity
So what does spirited driving on the highway mean to you going 70 on 65?:shrug:
 

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Robbing someone is DIFFERENT from racing!!! Yeah, they're both crimes, BUT STILL DIFFERENT! No, I wouldn't let the other guy go BECAUSE he was with another person to rob someone KNOWING that his friend had a gun! If someone is gonna rob someone of course they'll have a gun right? Yeah, good thing I'm not a cop and I don't ever plan on it. MOST people that are cops have power trips and think they're ABOVE the law.

no it is not different that street racing. two people engaging in actions that are KNOWN to put others at risk with no concern for the end results of the actions. both show a callous disregard for human life around them. Both have foreseeable consequences that have been ignored by the participants.

it is obvious that you have some growing up to do. it is also obvious that further discussion with you is a lost cause. Much like talking to a wall. so I am done trying to paint you a picture
 

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That's sad. I grew up in that area. I even used to street race myself down that way... not to mention a bunch of other places around the city. There was a couple places off Gratiot or downtown. The crowds were always cool, people where there for the cars. The cops let us be, and we'd leave if the neighboors complained. The crowds blocked the street and everyone tried to make it safe. I ran a few times myself when I was a teen or in my early 20s.

That said, what the hell was a 40 year old doing racing on Dequindre at 6:30 on a weekday night? And why is there no place to legally run? STILL??? I left Detroit a decade ago, and the nearest track is how far? The motor city... a place filled with gearheads, mechanics and engineers, with no damn track? Of course this was going to happen.

To me, everyone but the victim is to blame here.
 

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no it is not different that street racing. two people engaging in actions that are KNOWN to put others at risk with no concern for the end results of the actions. both show a callous disregard for human life around them. Both have foreseeable consequences that have been ignored by the participants.

it is obvious that you have some growing up to do. it is also obvious that further discussion with you is a lost cause. Much like talking to a wall. so I am done trying to paint you a picture

Yes, it IS different from street racing PERIOD! Now, If you'll excuse me I have some growing up to do.:D
 

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I could never fool around on any type of busy street, I'll do a few highway pulls a month at 2 A.M. though. Hope the vette owner gets caught.
 

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And raced on the street.
Yes, I didn't know I needed to add the word "street" to make things clear. I thought the established context was enough. Like I said, I quit and just drive my car like anyone else now.
Robbing someone is DIFFERENT from racing!!! Yeah, they're both crimes, BUT STILL DIFFERENT! No, I wouldn't let the other guy go BECAUSE he was with another person to rob someone KNOWING that his friend had a gun! If someone is gonna rob someone of course they'll have a gun right? Yeah, good thing I'm not a cop and I don't ever plan on it. MOST people that are cops have power trips and think they're ABOVE the law.

Not different really.

You would like this guy go even though he was with another person to race, knowing the other guy could kill someone with his car?

If someone is going to street race, of course they'll have a car right?

It's a good thing you're not a cop, that would just be sad. You think you and your friends are above the law in this hypothetical situation.
 

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If the vette owner is caught i don't think he should be charged with murder. They should get him for racing and fleeing the scene of an accident and a few other petty violations. And in the robbery scenario the guy that didn't pull the trigger should be charged for the robbery but not for the murder.
 

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lmao at robbing and shooting someone even being close to a street racing accident. The keyword is ACCIDENT. Sure it is awful and the driver should be charged big time. Its quite different than consciously deciding to rob or shoot someone.
 
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I would say that MOST of us with modded cars do it for the track and shows not for street racing. This is not to say that a lot of us don't push the speed limits or engage in some spirited driving on the highway but that is a far cry from engaging in street racing stupidity

Call a spade a spade. Racing on a public street is racing on a public street. Calling it "spirited driving on the highway" doesn't change the fact that it's racing on the street.

I street race, but I'd NEVER race on a busy two way street like that with cross traffic. Only in open areas with one way traffic and no side streets.
 

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lmao at robbing and shooting someone even being close to a street racing accident. The keyword is ACCIDENT. Sure it is awful and the driver should be charged big time. Its quite different than consciously deciding to rob or shoot someone.

THANK YOU!:beer:
 

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Not different really.

You would like this guy go even though he was with another person to race, knowing the other guy could kill someone with his car?

If someone is going to street race, of course they'll have a car right?

It's a good thing you're not a cop, that would just be sad. You think you and your friends are above the law in this hypothetical situation.

What makes you think that I think me and my friends are above the law in this situation? It is a good thing I'm not a cop and like I said I don't plan on it.:kaboom:
 

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Call a spade a spade. Racing on a public street is racing on a public street. Calling it "spirited driving on the highway" doesn't change the fact that it's racing on the street.

I street race, but I'd NEVER race on a busy two way street like that with cross traffic. Only in open areas with one way traffic and no side streets.

I am NOT talking about racing ... racing on the street under any circumstances is one of the dumbest things you can do.

If you clowns want to put the "racing" tag on a not further defined "spirited driving" that is on you. it is not what I said and not what I meant. Until this gets moved to smackdown I am likely done with the stupidity exhibited by street racers and their apologists in this thread.
 

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I am NOT talking about racing ... racing on the street under any circumstances is one of the dumbest things you can do.

If you clowns want to put the "racing" tag on a not further defined "spirited driving" that is on you. it is not what I said and not what I meant. Until this gets moved to smackdown I am likely done with the stupidity exhibited by street racers and their apologists in this thread.

I'm not an apologist. I think the guy should be punished. What he did was idiotic and inexcusable.

Please explain to me what the difference is between racing on the street and "spirited driving" on the highway and "pushing the speed limit." I'd really like to know.
 

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I guess it is a lot easier to kill innocent people now that I think about it...there's a lot more of them around than tracks:shrug:

Yes, it is that hard to find tracks for some people. Here in Atlanta, there is one track that is an hour from me.....there is USUALLY a test and tune once a week. You pay $20 and have to be there by about 6:00 to get near the front of the line. Most people aren't off work by then, and can't usually make it. But even for those who CAN make it, they either show up very early and wait at the gate and get a few passes in before it gets crowded, or sit in staging lanes for hours to get 1 - 3 passes in on a shitty prepped track that often times is more slippery than the public roads are. And I am one of the "fortunate" ones to have a track so close to me.

Now, on top of this...if I go with a perfectly stock car and ANYTHING breaks on it (whether it was my fault or not), the money comes out of my wallet because the warranty is voided. If I wreck at the track EVEN IF IT WASN'T MY FAULT the money comes out of my pocket again, because insurance does not cover your vehicle if it is at a race track. The same people who make the laws that DISCOURAGE people from going to the track, are the same ones who punish them for not doing so. If our government and policing system really cared about this "problem," then there would be movements to make more safe and legal options for these people.

The other MAJOR problem with this, is not the street racing itself....it's stupidity. The people who think racing 100+mph on the wrong side of a road WITH CROSS STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND ANYTHING ELSE WHERE PEDESTRIANS MAY BE are absolutely retarded. Either they don't THINK, or they don't CARE....I'm guessing the first is more prominant in these sorts of people. So what is our answer to this? Let's glorify the accident that happened, and put more strict laws on street racing. Problem isn't solved one bit, we don't make any effort whatsoever to actually try to educate people or help them think before they make decisions (in general). We just try to make more and more strict rules on the product, rather than the root of the problem.

Go do a search on how many fatalities there are each year due to street racing. You're more likely to die from a heart attack than you are by being in an accident caused by street racing. I don't see you raising hell on all of the fast food chains and snack vendors out there.

The thing is, STREET RACING is not the major problem here.....it's the MENTALITY of people who think it's ok do do 100mph on the wrong side of the road in an area where traffic is very likely to be driving in that area. I guarantee you if someone is stupid enough to think that's ok, they're stupid enough to kill innocent people with some other jackassed activity. An ignorant person can make ANYTHING dangerous.

If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at the greedy car manufacturers and insurance companies out there who refuse to cover people's vehicles for going to these tracks, discouraging them from doing it the legal and safe way. Be mad that there aren't more drag race tracks that are accessible to people out there, when we are selling cars with 400 and 500hp from the factory on a normal basis now. Be mad at advertisers and car magazines that show all these awesome performance cars burning out and doing 0 - 60 and quarter mile times, selling them to the public, then arresting those who do the same thing once they buy the cars.
 
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I am NOT talking about racing ... racing on the street under any circumstances is one of the dumbest things you can do.

If you clowns want to put the "racing" tag on a not further defined "spirited driving" that is on you. it is not what I said and not what I meant. Until this gets moved to smackdown I am likely done with the stupidity exhibited by street racers and their apologists in this thread.

This guy talks like he has never gone through a few gears on the street with another car hahahahaha, GTFO here with that shit old man go tell that "i only race at the track" to someone else.

Oh yea almost forgot get of the high horse.


I'm not an apologist. I think the guy should be punished. What he did was idiotic and inexcusable.

Please explain to me what the difference is between racing on the street and "spirited driving" on the highway and "pushing the speed limit." I'd really like to know.
Yea i am still waiting for that myself.
 
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Yes, it is that hard to find tracks for some people. Here in Atlanta, there is one track that is an hour from me.....there is USUALLY a test and tune once a week. You pay $20 and have to be there by about 6:00 to get near the front of the line. Most people aren't off work by then, and can't usually make it. But even for those who CAN make it, they either show up very early and wait at the gate and get a few passes in before it gets crowded, or sit in staging lanes for hours to get 1 - 3 passes in on a shitty prepped track that often times is more slippery than the public roads are. And I am one of the "fortunate" ones to have a track so close to me.

Now, on top of this...if I go with a perfectly stock car and ANYTHING breaks on it (whether it was my fault or not), the money comes out of my wallet because the warranty is voided. If I wreck at the track EVEN IF IT WASN'T MY FAULT the money comes out of my pocket again, because insurance does not cover your vehicle if it is at a race track. The same people who make the laws that DISCOURAGE people from going to the track, are the same ones who punish them for not doing so. If our government and policing system really cared about this "problem," then there would be movements to make more safe and legal options for these people.

The other MAJOR problem with this, is not the street racing itself....it's stupidity. The people who think racing 100+mph on the wrong side of a road WITH CROSS STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND ANYTHING ELSE WHERE PEDESTRIANS MAY BE are absolutely retarded. Either they don't THINK, or they don't CARE....I'm guessing the first is more prominant in these sorts of people. So what is our answer to this? Let's glorify the accident that happened, and put more strict laws on street racing. Problem isn't solved one bit, we don't make any effort whatsoever to actually try to educate people or help them think before they make decisions (in general). We just try to make more and more strict rules on the product, rather than the root of the problem.

Go do a search on how many fatalities there are each year due to street racing. You're more likely to die from a heart attack than you are by being in an accident caused by street racing. I don't see you raising hell on all of the fast food chains and snack vendors out there.

The thing is, STREET RACING is not the major problem here.....it's the MENTALITY of people who think it's ok do do 100mph on the wrong side of the road in an area where traffic is very likely to be driving in that area. I guarantee you if someone is stupid enough to think that's ok, they're stupid enough to kill innocent people with some other jackassed activity. An ignorant person can make ANYTHING dangerous.

If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at the greedy car manufacturers and insurance companies out there who refuse to cover people's vehicles for going to these tracks, discouraging them from doing it the legal and safe way. Be mad that there aren't more drag race tracks that are accessible to people out there, when we are selling cars with 400 and 500hp from the factory on a normal basis now. Be mad at advertisers and car magazines that show all these awesome performance cars burning out and doing 0 - 60 and quarter mile times, selling them to the public, then arresting those who do the same thing once they buy the cars.

Very well put.



This guy talks like he has never gone through a few gears on the street with another car hahahahaha, GTFO here with that shit old man go tell that "i only race at the track" to someone else.

Oh yea almost forgot get of the high horse.



Yea i am still waiting for that myself.


I'm gonna agree with you here.

It's real easy to talk a lot of crap to the people who were racing. But I'm willing to bet that ALL of us have ripped through the gears of our 500+hp cars. We may not have been in an organized street race, but doing 100+ in "spirited" driving is exactly the same thing. You are putting other lives in danger.

Seems very hypocritical to me.
I don't condone this kind of street racing, I think its stupid. But I also have done high speed runs on a highway. So I can't talk smack about these guys that do race on streets. I'm just as guilty.
 

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