C8 Corvette making potential GT500 buyers rethink their options

[RedVenom48]

Ford is participating in the exclusivity game, which is fine. But then Dodge rolls out the Hellcat and GM rolls out this here C8 and redefines that game.
Perhaps limited production will help my Shelby appreciate in value down the road. I wont complain at all.

But when the example set by 2 of your rivals shows that you can build as many as you can produce and people WILL buy them... then the absurd notion of exclusivity goes out the window.

 

[HISSMAN]

Ferrari builds as many as they can. They are not stupid. They just don't use the same assembly line techniques that we use, or build quality. Hell, they even hand stitch the seating together.

 

[Corbic]

GM and FCA have not being playing these games recently. I don't personally care if GM/FCA lose profit opportunity and dealers discount cars to move excess inventory.

To expand on this idea, I don't own stock in any of these companies. My concern for their profit motive is limited to "do they make enough money to justify producing the car and making a replacement model".

Clearly GM makes enough money on thr Corvette as we've seen nothing but outstanding growth in preformance, technology, innovation, model expansion and cost control on the car over the last 25 years.

FCA has been milking the LX chasis for every penny they can and expanding options, variants and giving us some crazy cars no one else would think to produce. Since 2014 each year has brought us another wild ride. 392, Hellcat, Demon, Redeye, Widebody, 1320, rumors of a 426 and AWD Hellcat keep circling for 2020/21.

It took Ford 6 years to feel the need to roll out another GT500....

 

[03Sssnake]

Ford is participating in the exclusivity game, which is fine. But then Dodge rolls out the Hellcat and GM rolls out this here C8 and redefines that game.
Perhaps limited production will help my Shelby appreciate in value down the road. I wont complain at all.

But when the example set by 2 of your rivals shows that you can build as many as you can produce and people WILL buy them... then the absurd notion of exclusivity goes out the window.

While the Shelby 500s are somewhat exclusive cars, at it's core its a mustang and there is zero exclusivity in the mustang world. I love the 500, but I hate what Ford is doing.

 

[Voltwings]

Compare however you want.

Ford artificially limits availability to increase cost (ADM, Wait Time, Difficulty Purchasing).

This is Anti-Consumer and naturally, aggravates Consumers. Doesn't mater who else does it or why they do it.

GM and FCA have not being playing these games recently. I don't personally care if GM/FCA lose profit opportunity and dealers discount cars to move excess inventory. That is to our, the consumer, benifit.

Paying $5k off for a Redeye is better than paying $10k over for a GT500....for the consumer.

It's not anti-consumer. Ford is selling an exclusive product to an exclusive market, which by definition makes those in the "exclusive market" consumers too. Just because they're not selling it for $20k it's all of the sudden anti-consumer?

It honestly just sounds like absent minded complaining because "it's not fair." Yeah, not everyone is going to get a GT500, that's kind of the point, and has always been the point.

 

[ZYBORG]

While the Shelby 500s are somewhat exclusive cars, at it's core its a mustang and there is zero exclusivity in the mustang world. I love the 500, but I hate what Ford is doing.

110%

 

[blk02edge]

While the Shelby 500s are somewhat exclusive cars, at it's core its a mustang and there is zero exclusivity in the mustang world. I love the 500, but I hate what Ford is doing.

To piggyback on this a lot of people think the shelby is way ahead on resale but when you factor in the prices actually paid, shelby being average above msrp and corvette being average below msrp new. The shelby isnt winning that game by much at all. But yes, exlusive my ass, only a select few notice and even care. Id bet 10x more thots get wet over corvettes.

At the end of the day my damn Ford ranger on 35's and long travel gets 10x the attention I ever got in the gen 2 viper. Lol

 

[Corbic]

It's not anti-consumer. Ford is selling an exclusive product to an exclusive market, which by definition makes those in the "exclusive market" consumers too. Just because they're not selling it for $20k it's all of the sudden anti-consumer?

It honestly just sounds like absent minded complaining because "it's not fair." Yeah, not everyone is going to get a GT500, that's kind of the point, and has always been the point.

Except that's not what's going on.

No one is complaining they can't afford the MSRP of the car. Cost is what it is. No one has cried out a $70k HC or $60k C8 is "unfair and FCA/GM needs to make it cheaper!"

People are agitated about the stupid "Games" and artifical costs being added on to what, basically price gouge consumers and drive up artificial demand?

That's great if this was a "collectors" market, hell that's half the enjoyment of such hobbies. (baseball card, coins, shoes, pinball machines, etc, finding and acquiring rare items).

However, that's not what most of us are about. We're about driving badass cars. Having to go to five dealers and hagle over ADMs, allocation and then wait 6 months to get dicked over last minute is not "fun" and not why most of us are into cars.

 

[ZYBORG]

To piggyback on this a lot of people think the shelby is way ahead on resale but when you factor in the prices actually paid, shelby being average above msrp and corvette being average below msrp new. The shelby isnt winning that game by much at all. But yes, exlusive my ass, only a select few notice and even care. Id bet 10x more thots get wet over corvettes.

At the end of the day my damn Ford ranger on 35's and long travel gets 10x the attention I ever got in the gen 2 viper. Lol

Pics of ranger or gtfo!

 

[C0bra99]

It took Ford 6 years to feel the need to roll out another GT500....

So? how long have they been Talking/Designing the mid engine corvette. Not one mention but you do bring this up a lot.

Ferrari builds as many as they can.

Nope...limits on higher ends cars
Examples
Ferrari 458 Speciale Spider <--this can be used as a test case like the GT500. Many 458 built but this higher model is limited
Ford GT
911 GT2 RS
Dodge Demon
Like I said it happens often.

Ford artificially limits availability to increase cost (ADM, Wait Time, Difficulty Purchasing).
FCA have not being playing these games recently.

I didn't see you bitching about the limit put on the Demon! You seem like a hypocrite when it suits your needs.

Paying $5k off for a Redeye is better than paying $10k over for a GT500....for the consumer.

Did I say anything about ADM. I think it is 100% greed. Again nothing about the markups on the Demon?

I'm only talking about differences on how manufacturers sell cars.

Some limit and some don't. Many manufacturers do it. No mention of others but when Ford does the same, it's how dare they and it anti consumer tsk tsk.


Lots of people on here seem to ignore things when it meets their narrative and then bring it up when it meets their needs.

 

[HISSMAN]

Still, Ferrari is ferrari.. Ford is this...

So? how long have they been Talking/Designing the mid engine corvette. Not one mention but you do bring this up a lot.

Nope...limits on higher ends cars
Examples
Ferrari 458 Speciale Spider <--this can be used as a test case like the GT500. Many 458 built but this higher model is limited
Ford GT
911 GT2 RS
Dodge Demon
Like I said it happens often.

I didn't see you bitching about the limit put on the Demon! You seem like a hypocrite when it suits your needs.

Did I say anything about ADM. I think it is 100% greed. Again nothing about the markups on the Demon?

I'm only talking about differences on how manufacturers sell cars.

Some limit and some don't. Many manufacturers do it. No mention of others but when Ford does the same, it's how dare they and it anti consumer tsk tsk.


Lots of people on here seem to ignore things when it meets their narrative and then bring it up when it meets their needs.

 

[blk02edge]

Pics of ranger or gtfo!

Ive had it for 10 years now, built it myself. Its a squeaky rattly pos but I love it

 

[ZYBORG]

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Ive had it for 10 years now, built it myself. Its a squeaky rattly pos but I love it

Looks pretty sweet, but please tell me you have about 500lbs of cargo on the bed for it to reverse take like that....

 

[GT Premi]

Nope...limits on higher ends cars
Examples
Ferrari 458 Speciale Spider <--this can be used as a test case like the GT500. Many 458 built but this higher model is limited
Ford GT
911 GT2 RS
Dodge Demon
Like I said it happens often. ...

Swap the 911 GT3 in for the GT2 RS. Strangely enough, the GT3 cars are limited production but the GT2 RS isn't. Porsche has said they will build as many [992(?)] GT2 RS cars as they can sell. I'm guessing they figure at the price it's going for, they don't need to artificially limit production. The cost does that by itself.

 

[Corbic]

So GT500 is no longer the top Tier Mustang Cobra, but a one-off "because we can" car?

Ford is going to cascade down GT500 parts into other standard production cars?

Ford has also been systemic on this issue for the last 20 years. SVT Raptor, GT350, GT500's, Focus RS, FGT, etc.

The Demon is more like the Cobra R, and no one got upset about those. We all knew it was destined to be limited from inception.

So? how long have they been Talking/Designing the mid engine corvette. Not one mention but you do bring this up a lot.

Nope...limits on higher ends cars
Examples
Ferrari 458 Speciale Spider <--this can be used as a test case like the GT500. Many 458 built but this higher model is limited
Ford GT
911 GT2 RS
Dodge Demon
Like I said it happens often.

I didn't see you bitching about the limit put on the Demon! You seem like a hypocrite when it suits your needs.

Did I say anything about ADM. I think it is 100% greed. Again nothing about the markups on the Demon?

I'm only talking about differences on how manufacturers sell cars.

Some limit and some don't. Many manufacturers do it. No mention of others but when Ford does the same, it's how dare they and it anti consumer tsk tsk.


Lots of people on here seem to ignore things when it meets their narrative and then bring it up when it meets their needs.

 

[03Sssnake]

Looks pretty sweet, but please tell me you have about 500lbs of cargo on the bed for it to reverse take like that....

Carolina squat

 

[C0bra99]

Still, Ferrari is ferrari.. Ford is this...

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My older brother (who is a GM guy) brings that up when he has no relevant comeback. A Pinto nice

 

[blk02edge]

Looks pretty sweet, but please tell me you have about 500lbs of cargo on the bed for it to reverse take like that....

It looks like its sitting a bit squatted, probably have all my track tools in it in that pic, normally sits higher although my 200lb dirtbike nearly puts it on the bump stops... 4 link life

 

[ZYBORG]

It’s very clean man. I’d make sure that if anything, had more of a rake. Tits truck tho!

 

[blk02edge]

It’s very clean man. I’d make sure that if anything, had more of a rake. Tits truck tho!

Thanks, it does sit level and thats fine by me, either cali lean or stink bug cant keep everyone happy. It sure does look stupid with load in the bed but I DGAF haha