Our 13 and 14 GT500 were still Awesome. New GT500

[04MysticCobra]

Don't / didn't care for the looks of the S550, that's why I ordered my 14.
..........( that & the lack of hp )
So ( 6 ) MY's later, a new GT500 is set to hit the streets, still has that S550 look.
No glass roof, no 6 speed, doesn't seem to fit MY idea of what a GT500 should be.
We still don't know it's ( crank ) hp rating yet, but I'm confident it will be less than what I'm currently driving. The DCT is fast, but if you enjoy driving a stick, it doesn't matter how fast it is.
Still happy with my 14, & it isn't going anywhere !!
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Agreed. While this new GT500 will be awesome I have never cared for the looks of the S550 Mustangs. That is why I had ordered a 2013 then missed the allocation and followed up with a 2014 order at MSRP that I ended up getting. My GT500 was perfect from Ford but unfortunately had to sell it after 2 years because of some unfortunate life changes. Now that things are getting back to normal for me will be looking for a low mileage 13/14 at some point soon. Can't wait.

 

[Robot_trainer]

Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Returns for 2020 with more than 700 Horsepower! - Hot Rod Network

"The rotating assembly was fortified with larger forged connecting rods along with improved lubrication and more efficient cooling passages. Beneath that, a structural oil pan adds strength, reduces vibration, and features a patented active baffle system to keep oil where it’s needed. And every GT500 engine is hand-build by dedicated Ford technicians."

Well most of that is true with the 13/14s. The pan is a structural member. Thats why its cast and not stamped steel. Forged rods are one of those terms like synthetic oil. What is the definition of "forged". Are they true I beam/H beam rods? The 13 rods were described as "forged". Forged powder metal. Powdered metal that is squeezed and high pressure between 2 dies and then heated as opposed to beating a hot piece of 4140 chrome moly between two dies. Curious to find out. And every 5.8 was hand built. The two things that attract me to this version are the more modern 5.2 and the DTC (hopefully the Focus DNA didnt rob off on this one. If it does it will be a disaster). Not enough to get me out of the seat of my 13. Now if someone wants to give me one...

 

[stanger1]

OP Here,
I biggest thing with Ford's reveal, was that they made the 0-60 in 3.5 seconds sound like Wow, look at this! The 5.8 could do that.
And I would sure hope the new GT500 will do the 1/4 in less than 11 seconds.
Our 13-14's were just ahead on their time I guess. I think that is what really started this big horse power game.
Also, I think I heard them say a Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft!. Did they forget again, the 13-14's did it 6 years ago.
Is Ford trying to forget the last GT500.

 

[Robot_trainer]

OP Here,
I biggest thing with Ford's reveal, was that they made the 0-60 in 3.5 seconds sound like Wow, look at this! The 5.8 could do that.
And I would sure hope the new GT500 will do the 1/4 in less than 11 seconds.
Our 13-14's were just ahead on their time I guess. I think that is what really started this big horse power game.
Also, I think I heard them say a Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft!. Did they forget again, the 13-14's did it 6 years ago.
Is Ford trying to forget the last GT500.

Well I guess 6 years is far enough in the rear view mirror to make most people forget. the 13/14s were a seismic shift. Pretty tough to go drastically beyond that milestone.

 

[merkyworks]

With the release of the 2020 GT500 and all the comments of Trinity GT500 Vs S550 GT500 it feels very reminiscent to threads of Terminator Vs Trinity GT500.

 

[boduke0220]

I think the new GT500 looks ok.. It's a bit too ricer for me but, it still looks good. My main gripe with the new car would be, I can't believe they used the gt350 engine block. My 2013 has a proprietary engine only to the GT500. That's how the GT500 always was, it wasn't a parts borrower. I'm wondering how they lost that mindset along the way.

I know they're are differences between the new GT500 and GT350. But for me to Shell out 70-100k of my money on one, this car isn't special enough. To me it's a GT350 with a dct and blower.

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If they made a whole new engine for the GT500 it would be a 120k car which is the exact opposite of what the mustang is supposed to be.

The new GT500 with MSRP in the 70-80k range. Just wait and don’t pay ADM.

Also why is everyone saying the car isn’t drag oriented enough? It will run 10s right out of the box, no other Gt500 can do that. And I’m not sure if you’ve looked under your cars lately but a 13/14 Track pack/ Performance pack car is all about handling..just sayinnnn

 

[paluka21]

If they made a whole new engine for the GT500 it would be a 120k car which is the exact opposite of what the mustang is supposed to be.

The new GT500 with MSRP in the 70-80k range. Just wait and don’t pay ADM.

Also why is everyone saying the car isn’t drag oriented enough? It will run 10s right out of the box, no other Gt500 can do that. And I’m not sure if you’ve looked under your cars lately but a 13/14 Track pack/ Performance pack car is all about handling..just sayinnnn

You are correct. The new GT500 does have electronic line lock and launch control features specifically for the track. From what I can tell it is designed to be an all around performer; drag strip -and- road course.

To be competitive from a price point, I would think the GT500 base model to start at a similar number to that of the Dodge Hellcat Charger or Challenger, or the ZL1 (non 1LE).
If Ford decides the market for this car is more along the lines of the Z06 or Dodge Hellcat Redeye, then we would be looking at starting prices around $79-80K and fully optioned most likely in the upper $90K's.

 

[Norton]

...I’m not sure if you’ve looked under your cars lately but a 13/14 Track pack/ Performance pack car is all about handling..just sayinnnn

The SVT Performance Pack is largely about handling (i.e., unique rear springs, unique rear shocks, Bilstein adjustable dampers).
The SVT Track Pack has nothing to do with handling, and is all about cooling (i.e., external engine oil cooler, transmission cooler pump, differential cooler).

 

[boduke0220]

The SVT Performance Pack is largely about handling (i.e., unique rear springs, unique rear shocks, Bilstein adjustable dampers).
The SVT Track Pack has nothing to do with handling, and is all about cooling (i.e., external engine oil cooler, transmission cooler pump, differential cooler).

Track Pack is for extended Periods on a road course, which involves handling.

 

[Snoopy49]

Track Pack is for extended Periods on a road course, which involves handling.

Track Pack

 

[Snoopy49]

Performance Package - You need this before you can get the Track Pack. They are 2 separate options.

 

[Cman01]

Our Trinities could also have been adept at drag racing only if...………….gear ratios and rear end gear was optimized (remember Ford wanted it to hit 200mph so the gearing was setup for that, definitely gearing was too tall for drag racing), 285 size tires definitely ain't going to get it done and finally my favorite beef of late...……………...that stupid BS design of a shifter.

Tony

edit: to the OE poster your title is wrong. These cars never WERE awesome...……..they ARE STILL awesome.

 

[COOL COBRA]

The new GT 500's looks, doesn't knock me out, yet. Wide front albeit with lots of inter-coolers. Don't really like the front down force tack-ons or the big rear wing. Some mixed observations:

No Convertible available, I guess? Had a Terminator, then 09, 12, and now 14 Gt 500. All Verts.

No stick available, HMMM. Well at least give us a shifter. The Rotary Dial is right out of the Fusion... Weak..
12 lb's of Boost confirmed by the Chief Engineer to C/D. He said don't pulley it down as it will upset the "holistic" tuning, or IE grenade the motor... Double HMMM. Bigger Blower running less boost than our 2.3 Blower. Kind of doesn't add up. One report said expect about 720 HP, 650 TQ. Forged Internals?? 3.73 Torsen Rear.. Same Blower internals as the New ZR1 Corvette which runs I think 14 lb's of Boost.

Looking forward to some Road Tests....

Very noteworthy post..

 

[COOL COBRA]

Our Trinities could also have been adept at drag racing only if...………….gear ratios and rear end gear was optimized (remember Ford wanted it to hit 200mph so the gearing was setup for that, definitely gearing was too tall for drag racing), 285 size tires definitely ain't going to get it done and finally my favorite beef of late...……………...that stupid BS design of a shifter.

Tony

edit: to the OE poster your title is wrong. These cars never WERE awesome...……..they ARE STILL awesome.

I'm not positive, but I think he meant WE'RE still awesome. Even though awesome is not my favorite word. Extremely overused.

 

[COOL COBRA]

With the release of the 2020 GT500 and all the comments of Trinity GT500 Vs S550 GT500 it feels very reminiscent to threads of Terminator Vs Trinity GT500.

I respect your opinion as always but I don't remember many of those debates pitting the 13/14 vs Terminator. Most were aimed at earlier cars, back to '07 from what I remember posted the most.
Lame pic opportunity, with text..
When the '13 Shelby information was released, I had a new '12 sitting in the garage. It was promptly sold as I knew I'd never be happy with it. Although it was a fine car. And I thought it was fast. And it was. But.
The new '13 arrived, made a few mods, life is good.

 

[tones_RS3]

Agreed. While this new GT500 will be awesome I have never cared for the looks of the S550 Mustangs. That is why I had ordered a 2013 then missed the allocation and followed up with a 2014 order at MSRP that I ended up getting. My GT500 was perfect from Ford but unfortunately had to sell it after 2 years because of some unfortunate life changes. Now that things are getting back to normal for me will be looking for a low mileage 13/14 at some point soon. Can't wait.

Steve, I still catch myself looking at one owner clean '13-'14 GT500 cars from time to time. Beautiful machines.

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Gorgeous car.

 

[biminiLX]

I think the new GT500 has confirmed our cars are the last of their kind—big torque, manual trans, live rear axle. I doubt we will see larger displacement or a manual trans; very likely future S650s will involve hybrid electrification. All that will advance the breed, but will also cement our cars as the last of the muscle car GT500s.
Who really knows? Drive and enjoy what you want, that’s all that matters in the end.
I do know my 2014 is a keeper.
-J

 

[BrunotheBoxer]

I think the new GT500 has confirmed our cars are the last of their kind—big torque, manual trans, live rear axle. I doubt we will see larger displacement or a manual trans; very likely future S650s will involve hybrid electrification. All that will advance the breed, but will also cement our cars as the last of the muscle car GT500s.
Who really knows? Drive and enjoy what you want, that’s all that matters in the end.
I do know my 2014 is a keeper.
-J

I honestly feel the new one is obviously a better car but that the 13/14 will be the more desirable one in the distant future.

I would not want to have all that technology 10-15 years after warranty is out and then something like a dct shits the bed.
I will always love the raw feel of my 14 and will never get rid of her.
Plus I retired and can’t afford the 2020 so there’s that too.

 

[boduke0220]

Performance Package - You need this before you can get the Track Pack. They are 2 separate options.

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Yea I know, My GT500 had both of them. Track Pack is for cooling extended periods on a road course...Drag cars do not have any of that ( which was my original argument)

Im sure the '20 would pull away in the 1/4 mile but id love to see an 1/8th run and a standing mile run with the Trinity and the Predator. Would be interesting! Trinity may still have the top speed record.

 

[svt662]

I agree with you 100% The “13” “14” are Great cars and will go down in history of one of the Best! Never selling mine....