So I assume the Kenne Bell 168 won’t fit up like I thought it would. I can’t believe they put a 1 off bolt pattern on there when they didn’t have a throttle body 100% figured out
Anyone get their paws on VMP 160 mono?
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^^^no shit. Also, beware that the whipple likely will not fit the adapter, either. Over the phone they told me yes and via email they told me no. I am going to return my 160 and run the 67 for a year or so until I can have confidence that they have worked the bugs out.
That’s what the wrench light is, fail safe. Basically it kills the throttle and allows you to slug along at about 5 MPH
We have an adapter to run a KB168 on the Gen 3 and will soon test it back to back on the dyno and then the track.
Again, my friends car has had no issues with the 160 yet the goal is big power/maximized drag strip.
-J
Again, my friends car has had no issues with the 160 yet the goal is big power/maximized drag strip.
-J
Interesting. Do you have any pictures of the adapter?
Hmm this is all rather interesting and distressing at the same time. While I cant say Im anywhere near ready to purchase, Im hesitant to want a VMP Gen 3 now. The larger bolt pattern should have been reserved for an R Spec edition that INCLUDED the max effort VMP mono, however that would have been priced.
I have a Whipple 170mm and it flows over 2K cfm. I've got no need for a VMP mono that, apparently, is having issues.
And I was honestly the biggest cheerleader for this thing. I still think its a beast, but making a VMP mono blade only pattern with a not well executed adapter to run literally 99% of the TBs already in the hands of owners seems a little.... unpleasant.
Ill re-evaluate this when Im ready to buy... but this honestly makes me kind of want to go with a tried and true Whipple 4.0L.
I have a Whipple 170mm and it flows over 2K cfm. I've got no need for a VMP mono that, apparently, is having issues.
And I was honestly the biggest cheerleader for this thing. I still think its a beast, but making a VMP mono blade only pattern with a not well executed adapter to run literally 99% of the TBs already in the hands of owners seems a little.... unpleasant.
Ill re-evaluate this when Im ready to buy... but this honestly makes me kind of want to go with a tried and true Whipple 4.0L.
If the VMP Gen3 isn’t what it should be, Just wait on the new GT500 and get a 2650 from Ford or a take off blower. The Trinity TVS, after about a year of production, was probably one of the best values in power adders in the history of blowers.
Its .279...measured with digital caliper.
Are you sure?
.279" is 7mm. The bolt at the front of the water neck is a 6mm bolt. The cutter portion has to be bigger than 7mm.
Yup 7mm...hole is 7mm. I will measure the cutter. That was the front nose/shank of the cutter...not the cutter.
Small issue with this....all evidence to date indicates the blower will be mounted inside the block "V" with the intercooler then on top, this is the opposite of our cars. So swapping new GT500 2650 onto your cars would likely take a lot of work and customization.
I think it would be much easier to make an adapter so a standard bolt pattern TB can be used and then port match everything to maximize flow.
The cutter is 16.73mm.
Dam, I guess I need to follow along better. I had no idea that’s what was happening.
I went from VMP Twin 67 to a rather expensive PBR combo including, KB 168 + 127JLT CAI and bolt matching O-sized plenum also made by BPS as was my first plenum. I think I laid out approx $1600 for the entire package but did so on Lund's advice. I sold my O-sized elbow/Twin67/123 JLT which offset the cost to around $900. Not sure how it would've gone if keeping the JLT 123 CAI. Lund provided a free tune upgrade. Chassis dyno went from 680-716rwhp, thru 410's at 16.5psi......Torque stayed same 679-680rwtq but tq band widened both ends 2-300rpm....idles at 850-900 with zero issues off idle or on the stab.
Nice results although that' some serious ching for your TB setup. Did Lund rec 123 CAI over 148? VMP told me to go bigger although conceded it probably would not matter.
I’m pretty sure he meant XBA elbow with KB168 TB and 148 JLT
That’s a proven best airflow combo for stock TVS
-J
That’s a proven best airflow combo for stock TVS
-J
For anyone who may be leaning towards this, I found this yesterday...
Shelby GT500 Kenne Bell DBW 168MM MAMMOTH 2150-2350 throttle body | eBay
Shelby GT500 Kenne Bell DBW 168MM MAMMOTH 2150-2350 throttle body | eBay
I am interested in running the KB throttle body with the 148 CAI. How can I get my hands on the adapter that you mention?
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