As friend of mine once said, “there is nothing more expensive than a cheap German car”
Anybody Own or Work On Porsches?
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Any pics of the Charger R/T that hood belongs to?
For our Challenger, it was the hood it had on it when we bought it.
Pick your poison.
$25k, should’ve been 50 but it was owned by a personal friend of ours.
Pick your poison.
My neighbor services and restores old BMWs and Porsches out of his garage and the guy makes mad money doing so (think high end neighborhood). If you aren't ready to keep investing maintenance in it, avoid them. If you don't mind having a weekend mechanic's car, they are a blast.
My sister has a 2004 Lexus GS350. It has 350K miles on it. As far as I know, it has never had a major repair.
Nice!
Holy shit!! Yeah, eff that! I'll find something else!
I will never complain about the corvette tax again after reading threads like this...
Haha yeah, I feel the same way about the "Viper Tax".
They’re excellent cars.
Thank you, looking forward to having it done and on the road.
They aren’t like building a Mustang. Everything is an extra digit, and takes three times as long to do. When you’re talking about the turbo cars crank everything up to 12.
Pick your poison.
For real, I miss paying the Corvette tax after reading this thread. I'll stick to American cars LOL
In the back of my mind, I had been kicking around the idea of maybe, possibly, thinking about getting into a 997.2.
Based on this thread, I think I'll be putting that idea away for quite a while.
I need to ban myself from bringatrailer.com. Every other car recently is a 911 it seems.
Based on this thread, I think I'll be putting that idea away for quite a while.
I need to ban myself from bringatrailer.com. Every other car recently is a 911 it seems.
Warning: long post.
This is not meant for bragging I don’t mean it that way. It is strictly meant to educate, and make others aware of what it actually costs to build a turbo Porsche race car, and maintain a very rare vehicle. It will sound hard to believe but God as my witness it’s true. I have not saturated these numbers.
My Godfather is the original owner of our Slantnose. The car’s window sticker is 104k in 89, 1 of 60 hand built street cars from the Porsche racing factory. Aka “Porsche works car.” My father and several local people would attend race events at Road Atlanta during the 80’s and early 90’s in their Porsche’s. Despite my father’s advice my Godfather decided to build the brand new Slantnose. For those familiar with Road Atlanta and Porsche racing history you might be familiar with the name Franz Blam. He was a crew chief for a factory 935 Race car (actual vehicle the Slantnose is modeled after). A 935 is arguably one of the most dominate race cars Porsche has ever made, along with the 917, and 962. Anyway the cars were so timeless and beautiful and people would convert them to street legal use. Many years later Porsche caught on to this and decided that they would release a special edition in honor of their race car, the 935.
What happens is Porsche builds a normal 930 Turbo, upon completion its sent to the Porsche racing factory, where the Slantnose package is installed. The package is approximately 30k on top of the regular 930 Turbo. The body panels were hand formed steel. Power increased to 330hp (severely detuned for emissions and safety regulations) from a 3.3L F6. Not safety features included, but only Power brakes, didn’t even have power steering. What makes a 89 different for the other Slantnose’s is it’s the last year for the Slantnose and 930, but also the first year for a Turbo 911 to receive the 5 speed the N/A 911’s had. Porsche’s reason for not giving it to them earlier is they said the turbo cars didn’t need a 5 speed. Truly a special car.
Now Franz Blam would start a Porsche racing performance shop, after he was done being crew chief. It would be for maintenance on factory race cars and to convert street legal cars to racing use or to just modify street cars. My Godfather decided to send his Slantnose to Franz Blam for a complete build, much to the disapproval of their little racing group. The car got a completely built engine with Carrillo rods, group B cams, 962 hot boxes, TT, boost management system, fuel cell, twin plug conversion, A/C delete etc. Built 5 speed with short 3,4,5 gears, brakes off a 928S4 (50% larger calipers than a stock 930T), corner balanced bilstein coilovers, enlarged sway bars, enlarged the brake cooling ducts, euro spec front air dam, 934 car car whale tail (much larger than stock, allowing for larger ATA intercooler), caged, RUF yellow bird door mirrors, lightweight BBS racing wheels. Car made over 600chp with 1 bar (atmospheric pressure, 14.7psi) of boost on racing fuel, mild timing. If a 935 intake manifold was used power would be well into the 800’s, possibly close to 9. Engine was very easily capable of 1000 hp at over 2 bar (30lbs). This is in the early 90’s, and it was a very well balanced vehicle that Franz Blam built, with cutting edge parts of the time. Car did very well around Road Atalanta and other road courses. Total cost on mods/labor/tuning: over $100,000
Now 94 comes around and my father purchased the vehicle. On his maiden voyage in the car on road Atlanta the engine goes boom. Diagnosis on the car showed a Carrillo rod wasn’t stretched properly or was getting tired. So a rebuild commenced. Car would be retired from road course racing so a less extreme build took place. A larger single turbo, 934 cams, Fikse wheels, roll cage removed, original door mirrors reinstalled, and fuel tank reinstalled. That’s what I can name off the top of my head, was able to salvage the intake manifold and heads. Power level is around 540chp at 1 bar with race fuel and moderate timing. Total cost for parts (discounted engine parts as well) if you include labor (father built) and tuning afterwards: around $25,000
A year later the car was hit at 25mph while at 25mph. Crushing the front right and rear right body panels. Vehicle was shipped to a body shop in Atlanta for repairs. Porsche has a large factory in Atalanta and they said that, that car didn’t exist. After vin verification and repair assessment. Diagnosis body was savable. Note: in 95 a front fender alone was $4000. After coming to an agreement and plan for repairs was completed the project began. Another fun fact is the person that hit my father had State Farm who want to Bondo repair the vehicle. My father said no, and State Farm refuses to pay for the repairs. So court rules in my father’s favor. While it’s down at the body shop my father decided to have the car completely repainted, minus door jams, engine bay and trunk. It took 24 hours of work to reform the rear panel to OE quality, claimed by the body shop. I believe it. Also not one ounce of Bondo was used on the body. Total cost around $35,000.
So there you have it the story of an 89 Slantnose that has had quite a journey and what it took to make it as stout as it was, and to make it beautiful again.
Again this is not to be taken as a form of bragging, I strictly mean for it to be form of education and awareness of the modification and repair costs of a Porsche.
Pick your poison.
This is not meant for bragging I don’t mean it that way. It is strictly meant to educate, and make others aware of what it actually costs to build a turbo Porsche race car, and maintain a very rare vehicle. It will sound hard to believe but God as my witness it’s true. I have not saturated these numbers.
My Godfather is the original owner of our Slantnose. The car’s window sticker is 104k in 89, 1 of 60 hand built street cars from the Porsche racing factory. Aka “Porsche works car.” My father and several local people would attend race events at Road Atlanta during the 80’s and early 90’s in their Porsche’s. Despite my father’s advice my Godfather decided to build the brand new Slantnose. For those familiar with Road Atlanta and Porsche racing history you might be familiar with the name Franz Blam. He was a crew chief for a factory 935 Race car (actual vehicle the Slantnose is modeled after). A 935 is arguably one of the most dominate race cars Porsche has ever made, along with the 917, and 962. Anyway the cars were so timeless and beautiful and people would convert them to street legal use. Many years later Porsche caught on to this and decided that they would release a special edition in honor of their race car, the 935.
What happens is Porsche builds a normal 930 Turbo, upon completion its sent to the Porsche racing factory, where the Slantnose package is installed. The package is approximately 30k on top of the regular 930 Turbo. The body panels were hand formed steel. Power increased to 330hp (severely detuned for emissions and safety regulations) from a 3.3L F6. Not safety features included, but only Power brakes, didn’t even have power steering. What makes a 89 different for the other Slantnose’s is it’s the last year for the Slantnose and 930, but also the first year for a Turbo 911 to receive the 5 speed the N/A 911’s had. Porsche’s reason for not giving it to them earlier is they said the turbo cars didn’t need a 5 speed. Truly a special car.
Now Franz Blam would start a Porsche racing performance shop, after he was done being crew chief. It would be for maintenance on factory race cars and to convert street legal cars to racing use or to just modify street cars. My Godfather decided to send his Slantnose to Franz Blam for a complete build, much to the disapproval of their little racing group. The car got a completely built engine with Carrillo rods, group B cams, 962 hot boxes, TT, boost management system, fuel cell, twin plug conversion, A/C delete etc. Built 5 speed with short 3,4,5 gears, brakes off a 928S4 (50% larger calipers than a stock 930T), corner balanced bilstein coilovers, enlarged sway bars, enlarged the brake cooling ducts, euro spec front air dam, 934 car car whale tail (much larger than stock, allowing for larger ATA intercooler), caged, RUF yellow bird door mirrors, lightweight BBS racing wheels. Car made over 600chp with 1 bar (atmospheric pressure, 14.7psi) of boost on racing fuel, mild timing. If a 935 intake manifold was used power would be well into the 800’s, possibly close to 9. Engine was very easily capable of 1000 hp at over 2 bar (30lbs). This is in the early 90’s, and it was a very well balanced vehicle that Franz Blam built, with cutting edge parts of the time. Car did very well around Road Atalanta and other road courses. Total cost on mods/labor/tuning: over $100,000
Now 94 comes around and my father purchased the vehicle. On his maiden voyage in the car on road Atlanta the engine goes boom. Diagnosis on the car showed a Carrillo rod wasn’t stretched properly or was getting tired. So a rebuild commenced. Car would be retired from road course racing so a less extreme build took place. A larger single turbo, 934 cams, Fikse wheels, roll cage removed, original door mirrors reinstalled, and fuel tank reinstalled. That’s what I can name off the top of my head, was able to salvage the intake manifold and heads. Power level is around 540chp at 1 bar with race fuel and moderate timing. Total cost for parts (discounted engine parts as well) if you include labor (father built) and tuning afterwards: around $25,000
A year later the car was hit at 25mph while at 25mph. Crushing the front right and rear right body panels. Vehicle was shipped to a body shop in Atlanta for repairs. Porsche has a large factory in Atalanta and they said that, that car didn’t exist. After vin verification and repair assessment. Diagnosis body was savable. Note: in 95 a front fender alone was $4000. After coming to an agreement and plan for repairs was completed the project began. Another fun fact is the person that hit my father had State Farm who want to Bondo repair the vehicle. My father said no, and State Farm refuses to pay for the repairs. So court rules in my father’s favor. While it’s down at the body shop my father decided to have the car completely repainted, minus door jams, engine bay and trunk. It took 24 hours of work to reform the rear panel to OE quality, claimed by the body shop. I believe it. Also not one ounce of Bondo was used on the body. Total cost around $35,000.
So there you have it the story of an 89 Slantnose that has had quite a journey and what it took to make it as stout as it was, and to make it beautiful again.
Again this is not to be taken as a form of bragging, I strictly mean for it to be form of education and awareness of the modification and repair costs of a Porsche.
Pick your poison.
What kind of lap times was it turning around Road Atlanta? Are you still local to GA?
Any pictures of that slant nose from when it was stock, a race car, the accident, the restoration/repair and what it is today?
My Father didn’t get to complete a lap in the car before it blew up. My Godfather was slow in the car due to him being scared to death of it. I do know for a fact the car would hit 160mph on the straight. We live in KY, and car is located here. Vehicle was built by Franz Blam the first time, body work done by McGraw body shop in Tucker, GA (recommended by Porsche factory in Atalanta), second engine rebuild was done by my father here in KY.
I’m not sure if I have pictures of it in stock form or pictures of the accident. But this is a photo of a stock Slantnose that would’ve looked exactly like ours.
^ that is current condition.
There’s 2 pictures of the car at the shop one being the car on road Atalanta and another being pulled over on the highway, with two additional Porsche’s, by a fox body mustang police car. I’ll get those photos up when I’m back from lunch.
Pick your poison.
^ on road Atlanta.
This particular photo my father owned the black (actually a very dark blue) 86 930 Turbo, and the Slantnose was still owned by my Godfather.
Pick your poison.
I can't even find a slant nose valuation in Hagerty but an 89 930 turbo that's in excellent condition should bring over $250k.
Edit: I just noticed it said at 30% for a factory slant nose
Edit: I just noticed it said at 30% for a factory slant nose
I'm sure your dad has a story to match being pulled over.
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