Gt500 6r80 swap ????

[ZeroSVT]

You don't always need a new abs module some people can get away with it some can't the abs modules are really finicky sometimes . You're gonna need a 11-12 PCM if you don't want select a shift and a 13-14 PCM if you do . Select a shift is a waste of time in my opinion

You don't have to have the specific PCM for either. The firmware inside is what enables the selectshift, not the hardware.

BR3A-12B684-AC for any manual mustang GT or GT500
BR3A-12B684-CC for any Automatic GT (may can be used on GT500).

The firmware (calibration and o/s) can be used interchangeably between pcm hardware types. Meaning I can load 13/14 firmware with select shift on a 2011 Auto PCM.

 

[Bigclok]

But can you resolve the abs and traction control issues with out a new abs module?

 

[1ulost2]

You don't have to have the specific PCM for either. The firmware inside is what enables the selectshift, not the hardware.

BR3A-12B684-AC for any manual mustang GT or GT500
BR3A-12B684-CC for any Automatic GT (may can be used on GT500).

The firmware (calibration and o/s) can be used interchangeably between pcm hardware types. Meaning I can load 13/14 firmware with select shift on a 2011 Auto PCM.

my car was built in 8/10 so i figured I need to get a pcm for a early 2011 auto car...should I just hold off on the abs module an see how it acts?? Tvs vert would make my day if he would post up that article on his install

 

[biminiLX]

It's great to have Matt and someone experienced with this swap in here.
Would be even better with a write up of exactly what's needed to do it right.
Matt, can I PM you to discuss my project?
I have a fully complete 5.0/6R out of a '14 F150 4x2 with all electronics including computer, except the body harness. We talked to you guys at Bradenton, but the coyote/6R swaps will be increasing popularity for sure.
-J
:beer:

 

[ZeroSVT]

But can you resolve the abs and traction control issues with out a new abs module?

The ABS modules are different in the hardware between 11/12 and 13/14

my car was built in 8/10 so i figured I need to get a pcm for a early 2011 auto car...should I just hold off on the abs module an see how it acts?? Tvs vert would make my day if he would post up that article on his install ����

If yours is a 2011MY then you can use a 2011-2014 Auto PCM

It's great to have Matt and someone experienced with this swap in here.
Would be even better with a write up of exactly what's needed to do it right.
Matt, can I PM you to discuss my project?
I have a fully complete 5.0/6R out of a '14 F150 4x2 with all electronics including computer, except the body harness. We talked to you guys at Bradenton, but the coyote/6R swaps will be increasing popularity for sure.
-J
:beer:

I wasnt at bradenton sadly. Sure PM me, responses may be slow though.

 

[Bad Company]

It's great to have Matt and someone experienced with this swap in here.
Would be even better with a write up of exactly what's needed to do it right.
Matt, can I PM you to discuss my project?
I have a fully complete 5.0/6R out of a '14 F150 4x2 with all electronics including computer, except the body harness. We talked to you guys at Bradenton, but the coyote/6R swaps will be increasing popularity for sure.
-J
:beer:

J

The HpTuner booth was a HPTuner dealer at Bradenton. Yet Eric Brooks from HPTuners was there as customer/tech/sales support for this dealer. You were there on Saturday afternoon and I doubt you got to meet Eric as I saw him walking the pits in the afternoon. My friend that installed a 5.0/6R80 in the 93 Lightening was with me. You two need to talk. He installed a truck engine and transmission in his Lightening. The 6R80 and the electronics controlling it are different than the Mustang PMC and transmission. He has got it up and running, but he hasn't gotten the final tuning done yet. It does drive a shift correctly with a Mustang PMC. He is now working to get the truck PMC tuned correctly to utilize the extra shift features that are only available with the truck transmission and PMC. As far as wiring goes I think I listed the guy and company he used to get all of that for you in the past. If you need it again let me know. The wiring wasn't difficult, only time consuming.

 

[Bad Company]

J

The guy that did this in the Fox Body is

Thunder Autosports
617 Industrial Avenue
Boyton Beach FL 33426
Ph 561 369-1711

Ask for Steve. It took him quite a bit of timing to figure out the wiring harness to do this conversion. Since he has done it once already, he is claiming it will be much easier. At this time he is talking about roughly 8 to 12 hours of labor to get the truck rewired for my friend, but my friend is doing a lot of other things at the same time. This truck should be very interesting once it is finished. He put a complete Crown Vic front suspension out of a police car in it, along with a Chris Alston 4 link in the rear with coil overs. A narrowed 9" housing fitted with 4.11 gears using Michelin PSS 345 tires for his street tire. The roof of the truck is low enough that a 6 foot tall person can see over the top of it. Eventually he will add a Procharger to make this thing really fly.

From what you're listing in parts you already have. I'd be willing to bet you can send him the harness to get your project up and running soon without spending a ton of money

J

I thought I'd posted this for you earlier.

The truck transmission has one more position of the shifter arm of the transmission, when compared to a transmission from a car.

A truck is P R N D M 2 1 on the shifter with the same 7 positions/detents on the transmission shifter arm as you move the arm from position to position in the transmission

A car is P R N D S 1 on the shifter with the same 6 positions/detents in the transmission shifter arm of the transmission

The shift strategy of the PCM in the programming is different between the car and truck transmissions because of this. You can use the truck transmission with the Mustang GT Coyote/Auto PCM and programming. You give up the ability to use lower gear selection when you install a Mustang PCM with a truck transmission. The F-150 transmission will shift in the same manner as the Mustang does with a Mustang PCM even though the shift arm detents and valve body are different.

My friend is in the process of trying to get a F-150 Coyote/Auto PCM programmed properly to utilize a console and shifter from a Raptor in his Lightening with the truck shift indicators. Since he has a truck transmission, he has the extra position in it shift selector and detents in the valve body. So far HPTuners looks like the only one that may allow him to get the PATTS strategy in a truck PCM turned off to accomplish this.

We spent quite a bit of time at Bradenton talking with Eric about this, along with the benefits of the HPTuner software versus SCT

 

[Bigclok]

Meaning I would need an 11/12 abs module?
My car is a 2013 base mt82 & I now have 6R with select shift running great minus the abs issues.

 

[a_gorman]

When are the videos going to be posted? op:

 

[genesmob]

Finished swapping my 2007 gt500 convertible to a 4l80e and triple disc billet converter from tsi. Used an Hgm compushift 2 controller. I absolutely love it. compushift 2 tuning and support is awesome. Drives incredible. I go to the drag strip once a year and with high iat2 pulling 3 degrees of timing(150 degrees because of severe high rpm voltage drop, put in new alternator and IC pump last night) had it auto shifting at 6100 , 20 inch wheels nt555rs ran a 10.62 I have a vmp tvs. Best I have run with the stick was a 10.89 but that was with much better m&h drag radials on 18 inch rims. That was my best run I never could repeat because I suck at driving a stick! All my other runs were in the 11s. If I go again this year, I will put the m&hs back on, raise shift rpms and get the Iat figured out. Hope to do better but its a convertible on 20s.

 

[VADEi2]

Subscribing

 

[slowbra1]

This thread is great. Thanks to all who are helping with this topic.

 

[BIGONTS]

Anyone test or order one? http://www.performanceautomatic.com/news/319/6R80_Controllers_are_Ready!_.html

 

[jazz05]

just got off the phone, try back in Aug.

 

[TVS VERT]

Heard that in August of 2014 lol

 

[Blown38]

They announced on the intercom at Carlisle that ford had a controller. I kinda caught the end of the announcement tho.

 

[slowbra1]

They announced on the intercom at Carlisle that ford had a controller. I kinda caught the end of the announcement tho.

Are you sure about what you heard ?

 

[Blown38]

I'm not sure of the details. I caught the end of the announcement. I think I read somewhere that the controller was only available with the coyote control pack, so that may have been what it was.

 

[TVS VERT]

When are you going to track?

went this past weekend ran a 10.22 @ 135 on 18psi and 20* timing 1.64 60ft , I was having boost issues as my 3.25 Pulley (23psi) was only making 18psi, I swapped out the red button Bypass last night for the spare normal black bypass and the 3.5 Pulley (21 psi) is now making 23-24psi at like 6400 before I backed out of it and car feels totally different making boost almost instantly where it felt really laboured before.....So I need to order a 3.75 pulley to get me around 20-21psi at 6500 to get it in the sweet spot, I don't think a 9 sec pass is gonna be an issue. I hoping with new found boost and power and 9.7-9.8 at 140mph is there....hopefully be back within the next week or 2.

 

[0mineralgrey3]

I got mine done and made the first test pass last night. Kind of boring during the pass...but fast none the less. I'm going to the track tomorrow night to do some logs for the tuner. It dyno'd less than i expected, but he told me the same thing about boost. With a 3.5 and a 10% lower I was only seeing 18lbs but normally see 23-25. Heat being a factor but not 7 lbs worth. I put a 3.25 on it last night but I think i'm going to go with a 3.0 at the track sat. night. I'm limited to 6k rpms right now and 16 degrees of timing until i get them some track logs.

Tvs vert....what starter did you use for the swap? I'm using the SFI flexplate from circle D and I had the stock 2014 gt500 starter in it. It sounded really loud and rough starting. Well last night after a few passes it wouldn't start the car anymore. Sounded pretty horrible. Brought it home last night and put the starter from a 2013 5.0 in it and it starts up again.....but it still is kind of loud. I inspected the teeth on the flexplate and one or two have some noticeable marks on the teeth but nothing major.

Also...were you able to retain your stock abs module or did you switch to a 5.0 to get rid of all the lights on the dash. Did you get the oil level light working on yours?