Pullied Cobra vert vs 5.0 vert

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That was my point. He was saying how the 5.0s will make more HP on the same PSI. That is true, but I'm not sure what point he is trying to make. Is he trying to say that means its a better car or a better motor? You can turn up the boost on a cobra to 20+ PSI. What are the 5.0s safely limited to? maybe around 10 PSI on bottom end?

Either way, as I said before.... Both cars have smiliar performance out of the box. A CAI, tune, exhaust 5.0 would be a good run for a CAI, tune, exhaust Cobra. Beyond that, the cobra has the edge because of the supercharger and the built bottom end (assuming you are using similiar budgets on both cars).

Because 20psi on a stock blower is the same as 20psi on a 88mm turbo.:nonono:
20 psi means nothing if we are comparing 2 different size power adders. :rolling:
 
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And the GT boys still hating on the already iconic 03-04 s ..well tell you what , i wait 10 yrs when they cost 8-9k and maybe I will give them a try and having a extra set of rods just in case of a failure :)
 
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Thats a whole different discussion.

Well, you all sound like illiterates. "This car can handle 20 psi" ... "that car can only handle 10psi" I'm sure 20psi on a 88mm turbo will net over 900whp which neither car can take. So blandly comparing PSIs is stupid.
 

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Well, you all sound like illiterates. "This car can handle 20 psi" ... "that car can only handle 10psi" I'm sure 20psi on a 88mm turbo will net over 900whp which neither car can take. So blandly comparing PSIs is stupid.

Did you notice you're the only one talking about turbos? Cobras come with superchargers last time I checked.
 
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Did you notice you're the only one talking about turbos? Cobras come with superchargers last time I checked.

Not really, you're referring to "20 psi"

You guys are referring to "20 PSIs" which you can also run on a turbo so...

again, let me rephrase, the amount of PSI is irrelevant with two different size power adders. Another example, 20psi on the stock eaton blower will not be the same whp as 20psi on 4.0 mammoth " :rollseyes
 

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Not really, you're referring to "20 psi"

You guys are referring to "20 PSIs" which you can also run on a turbo so...

again, let me rephrase, the amount of PSI is irrelevant with two different size power adders. Another example, 20psi on the stock eaton blower will not be the same whp as 20psi on 4.0 mammoth " :rollseyes

Uhh, it's assumed were talking about superchargers here as they are what come stock on Cobras and are the most popular upgrade for bigger boost :poke:

But since you want to get all specific and technical. PSI doesn't even matter when we're comparing the same kind of power adder (turbo to turbo or blower to blower). It's all about CFM volume airflow. So your posts are irrelevant and completely way off base as well.

Now....back to the fratricide :burn:
 

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N/A horsepower > Supercharged horsepower. Show me 2 of the exact same cars, same weight, same power except one is N/A and one is supercharged and tell me what wins. If drivers are equal the N/A car will win hands down. 5.0 > Cobra.
 

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N/A horsepower > Supercharged horsepower. Show me 2 of the exact same cars, same weight, same power except one is N/A and one is supercharged and tell me what wins. If drivers are equal the N/A car will win hands down. 5.0 > Cobra.

um nice try but the cobra and 5.0 run the same times stock for stock :poke:
 

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N/A horsepower > Supercharged horsepower. Show me 2 of the exact same cars, same weight, same power except one is N/A and one is supercharged and tell me what wins. If drivers are equal the N/A car will win hands down. 5.0 > Cobra.

Such a gay, biased and gross generalization. :loser:
 

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N/A horsepower > Supercharged horsepower. Show me 2 of the exact same cars, same weight, same power except one is N/A and one is supercharged and tell me what wins. If drivers are equal the N/A car will win hands down. 5.0 > Cobra.

Same power as in what peak Hp? Are we talking same C.I. as well? It would take a lot more displacement and technology for a N/A car to keep close to the same curve as a Forced induction car. A well thought out supercharged or turbo car will ALWAY'S make more power under the peak than a N/A car car. I am a die hard N/A guy but I know the difference. Races are not won by peak horsepower it's how flat the power curve is that counts. Even a big cam motor with a variable runner intake will not make the same power band as a good blower or turbo motor at the same C.I.. If your statement were true than top fuel cars would all be N/A The Texas mile record would be a N/A car. As well as N/A records from Tractor pullers lol..., Monster trucks, Motorcycles, Boats, Trains, Planes, etc., etc, etc,:burnout:
 
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Same power as in what peak Hp? Are we talking same C.I. as well? It would take a lot more displacement and technology for a N/A car to keep close to the same curve as a Forced induction car. A well thought out supercharged or turbo car will ALWAY'S make more power under the peak than a N/A car car. I am a die hard N/A guy but I know the difference. Races are not won by peak horsepower it's how flat the power curve is that counts. Even a big cam motor with a variable runner intake will not make the same power band as a good blower or turbo motor at the same C.I.. If your statement were true than top fuel cars would all be N/A The Texas mile record would be a N/A car. As well as N/A records from Tractor pullers lol..., Monster trucks, Motorcycles, Boats, Trains, Planes, etc., etc, etc,:burnout:

It's just easier is why.
 

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Same power as in what peak Hp? Are we talking same C.I. as well? It would take a lot more displacement and technology for a N/A car to keep close to the same curve as a Forced induction car. A well thought out supercharged or turbo car will ALWAY'S make more power under the peak than a N/A car car. I am a die hard N/A guy but I know the difference. Races are not won by peak horsepower it's how flat the power curve is that counts. Even a big cam motor with a variable runner intake will not make the same power band as a good blower or turbo motor at the same C.I.. If your statement were true than top fuel cars would all be N/A The Texas mile record would be a N/A car. As well as N/A records from Tractor pullers lol..., Monster trucks, Motorcycles, Boats, Trains, Planes, etc., etc, etc,:burnout:

You are comparing all out race vechicles of course they are going to have some form of fi lol Regardless I would take a 450whp n/a 4.6/5.0 over a 450whp eaton car all day :thumbsup:
 

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You are comparing all out race vechicles of course they are going to have some form of fi lol Regardless I would take a 450whp n/a 4.6/5.0 over a 450whp eaton car all day :thumbsup:

I guess all out race vehicles choose what's best huh? After all it's all about winning.. All of my vehicles are N/A with the exception of my Dodge. I too prefer a N/A motor over a F.I. motor, my personal preference. Yet I would have to use a Huge c.i. motor to make the same power band as my Dodge does. I would not trade this for a N/A motor where there will be extra wait and less efficiency.
You can say yeah but that is a diesel motor but this applies to almost all petrol motors. And I do not believe F.I. is an easy way out as it usually always cost more when done right. Either way choose your poison and be happy with it.
 

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Uhh, it's assumed were talking about superchargers here as they are what come stock on Cobras and are the most popular upgrade for bigger boost :poke:

But since you want to get all specific and technical. PSI doesn't even matter when we're comparing the same kind of power adder (turbo to turbo or blower to blower). It's all about CFM volume airflow. So your posts are irrelevant and completely way off base as well.

Now....back to the fratricide :burn:
So you're agreeing with what I'm saying. Blandly saying "this car can handle xx PSI" is dumb and inaccurate.
N/A horsepower > Supercharged horsepower. Show me 2 of the exact same cars, same weight, same power except one is N/A and one is supercharged and tell me what wins. If drivers are equal the N/A car will win hands down. 5.0 > Cobra.
Ah no, you didn't say that !!! You know the police is after you now :banana:
 

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As much as I love my car, I can't seem to feel good about saying pushrod engines are crap. Many many turbo pushrod engines make way more power than not. And as for this 2011+5.0>03-04 cobra and 03-04 cobra>2011+5.0, both are great cars and both are fords. As another op stated, its all in preference. I had the choice between the two and choose the cobra. I have seen too many turbo and supercharged stock engine cobras making 700+hp. IMO a better looking car exterior, and, the best sounding car of all time. The new 5.0 comes with better brakes, interior, and suspension but these are all things I can upgrade my car with. Love both cars, both have great engines, but the exhaust note of the 03-04 cobra has had me from day one. Think I will race my buddy soon with his 2011 gt andrecord it to see what happens. We have same gears, both have full exhaust, both have intakes. My car still has stock pulley, so I think this will be a fair race. He is a better driver than me, but, I think I hold my own pulling a 1.93 60ft on stock tires (stock then). Will post video after the race. My car is a vert btw.
 
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I guess all out race vehicles choose what's best huh? After all it's all about winning.. All of my vehicles are N/A with the exception of my Dodge. I too prefer a N/A motor over a F.I. motor, my personal preference. Yet I would have to use a Huge c.i. motor to make the same power band as my Dodge does. I would not trade this for a N/A motor where there will be extra wait and less efficiency.
You can say yeah but that is a diesel motor but this applies to almost all petrol motors. And I do not believe F.I. is an easy way out as it usually always cost more when done right. Either way choose your poison and be happy with it.

Uh what i was trying to say is a n/a 10sec Street car will beat 99 precent of the cars on the road with or without blowers.You are out in left field lol
 
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As much as I love my car, I can't seem to feel good about saying pushrod engines are crap. Many many turbo pushrod engines make way more power than not. And as for this 2011+5.0>03-04 cobra and 03-04 cobra>2011+5.0, both are great cars and both are fords. As another op stated, its all in preference. I had the choice between the two and choose the cobra. I have seen too many turbo and supercharged stock engine cobras making 700+hp. IMO a better looking car exterior, and, the best sounding car of all time. The new 5.0 comes with better brakes, interior, and suspension but these are all things I can upgrade my car with. Love both cars, both have great engines, but the exhaust note of the 03-04 cobra has had me from day one. Think I will race my buddy soon with his 2011 gt andrecord it to see what happens. We have same gears, both have full exhaust, both have intakes. My car still has stock pulley, so I think this will be a fair race. He is a better driver than me, but, I think I hold my own pulling a 1.93 60ft on stock tires (stock then). Will post video after the race. My car is a vert btw.

When is this race going to take place?
 

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