ZL - wow

[xXGadfly09Xx]

I was on my way home from work and stopped by my local Chevy dealership because I heard they had a 2013 Chevy Camaro ZL1 there. It was an Orange Zl1 with an automatic transmission. Dealer demo with 528 or so miles on it. After talking with a nice young salesman he grabbed the keys and fired it up. WOW that thing is LOUD for a stock car, he asked if I wanted to take it for a spin so I said sure why not?


This thing was FAST LOUD and handled really well for a 4000 pound car. I genuinely liked it. If anyone isnt a brand nut swinger I seriously recommend taking it out for a quick spin. It is incredible. I would put above an M3 in terms of performance by FAR.

 

[ON D BIT]

And the comparison to the 13 gt500?

 

[nickf2005]

I would like to know the the number of ZL1 owners that AREN'T brand loyalists. I'd venture to say it's <10%.

Have you heard any year GT500 fire up? My '12 is quite impressive for a stock exhaust.

 

[BlackOutUT]

April Fools?

In all seriousness it a pretty impressive. I got to drive one a few months ago. But I would never take it over an m3 or 500. Fit and finish is sub par in my opinion.

 

[96 cobra]

In comparison, the local ford dealership wouldn't let me test drive a base mustang gt...

I'm hoping someone will bring a ZL1 to the autocross this season, when I'm instructing

 

[ThomasL]

I'd be curious to drive one for comparison's sake. Don't mind the looks of em as far as Camaros go. Probably wouldn't want one no matter how much i loved the ride.

 

[Never_Enough]

Being a previous BMW owner, I'll take the E92/E90 M3 over a Camaro 101 times out of 100.

 

[Never_Enough]

In comparison, the local ford dealership wouldn't let me test drive a base mustang gt...

I'm hoping someone will bring a ZL1 to the autocross this season, when I'm instructing

In 2011 I was looking to buy a new CTS-V. I had one for an extended test drive & found a GT500 at a dealer down the road so I pulled in to drive it (In the V) & they would not let me drive it LOL!!!

 

[ChiSVT]

It's a piece of shit considering it's a $60,000, 4,200lb pony car. Visibility, performance, styling, ergonomics and efficiency. It is very balanced though and magnetic ride is pretty sweet. Just buy a CTS-V. Why buy an ugly POS with a shit interior and shit visibility for virtually the same experience?

 

[R.D.P.]

It's a piece of shit considering it's a $60,000, 4,200lb pony car. Visibility, performance, styling, ergonomics and efficiency. It is very balanced though and magnetic ride is pretty sweet. Just buy a CTS-V. Why buy an ugly POS with a shit interior and shit visibility for virtually the same experience?

Agreed. CTS-V better option in every way - although it's still a fat pig of a car. Over 4klbs is just too heavy, I don't care how great the balance or suspension is.

 

[ThomasL]

It's a piece of shit considering it's a $60,000, 4,200lb pony car. Visibility, performance, styling, ergonomics and efficiency. It is very balanced though and magnetic ride is pretty sweet. Just buy a CTS-V. Why buy an ugly POS with a shit interior and shit visibility for virtually the same experience?

But i wanna know how you really feel...

 

[AAG]

Would rather have the 1LE Camaro and put a blower on it + save $10k.

 

[Coiled03]

Would rather have the 1LE Camaro and put a blower on it + save $10k.

But, but, but......magnetic ride!!!......and, and....road course times!!

 

[vortecd]

camaro...ummm....no

 

[Jbstang87]

Id rather have a c6 grand sport with a blower on it. That thing will move

 

[xXGadfly09Xx]

And the comparison to the 13 gt500?

I know this will come off as whipped but I am dating a woman that I am looking to propose to. She can't drive stick and doesn't want to learn. The Zl1 comes in automatic as does the M3 and the CTSV. I would love a 13 gt500 but I would rather fight over something else.

I would like to know the the number of ZL1 owners that AREN'T brand loyalists. I'd venture to say it's <10%.

Have you heard any year GT500 fire up? My '12 is quite impressive for a stock exhaust.

I actually never owned a chevy. I heard the '07 but never anything newer, Roush and Saleen but not a shelby. I did not mean to disrespect your 12 gt500 and Im sorry if it comes off as me disrespecting anyone's ride. Thats not my intent.

April Fools?

In all seriousness it a pretty impressive. I got to drive one a few months ago. But I would never take it over an m3 or 500. Fit and finish is sub par in my opinion.

Yeah some of the panel gaps were.... sketchy. I love the m3, my respect for it is boundless. However 56X hp vs 41X is a huge gap.

In comparison, the local ford dealership wouldn't let me test drive a base mustang gt...

I'm hoping someone will bring a ZL1 to the autocross this season, when I'm instructing

CHevy 112, let me test drive the zl1 and I am 23 years old.

Being a previous BMW owner, I'll take the E92/E90 M3 over a Camaro 101 times out of 100.

I have owned an 04 m3 for 3 months I love BMW. That being said I would take a m3 over an SS, a zL1 makes me think though.

In 2011 I was looking to buy a new CTS-V. I had one for an extended test drive & found a GT500 at a dealer down the road so I pulled in to drive it (In the V) & they would not let me drive it LOL!!!

Yeah ford wont let me drive a gt500 but I can drive a ctsv, zl1, any vette, jag xkr-s, 911 (non turbo), used aston martin

IDK what fords deal is.

It's a piece of shit considering it's a $60,000, 4,200lb pony car. Visibility, performance, styling, ergonomics and efficiency. It is very balanced though and magnetic ride is pretty sweet. Just buy a CTS-V. Why buy an ugly POS with a shit interior and shit visibility for virtually the same experience?

I thought the ctsv was like 70-80k? maybe im wrong?

THis was a dealer demo

60,000msrp

then invoice pricing + 3000 in rebates

I came up to under 56 otd

Would rather have the 1LE Camaro and put a blower on it + save $10k.

I was under the impression (again I could be wrong) that the zl1 has forged rods and pistons.

I am scared to SC a non forged motor as this is my DD

But, but, but......magnetic ride!!!......and, and....road course times!!

tbh the mag ride wasnt that great.

Id rather have a c6 grand sport with a blower on it. That thing will move

I need a back seat for my DD otherwise this or a c6z06

 

[Tezz500]

Hopefully it doesn't explode from faulty 59cent springs... Seems GM is having that issue going around...

 

[MovingZen]

Give your girl the M3 and get whatever you want. If she doesn't want to learn to drive a stick it's her loss. And btw, if she aint into driving the stick you are gonna have some issues...know what I'm saying?

 

[Camaro_94]

Love these threads and how butt hurt everyone gets when someone says something positive about a camaro.

For being the "4k+ lb pig", it handles better than a GT500. Yeah, the precious GT500 should be faster from a roll, but that "overweight pig of a car" sure doesn't have a problem keeping a GT500 in the rear view at a road course.

Incase you're wondering... I would still take a GT500 over one, but quit acting like it's a prius when in some aspects it's better than the GT500.

 

[DOHC MARK VIII]

You guys seen the new Car and Driver plus Road & Track articles and road tests on the new Z-28? Wow, it's got to be the world's greatest car if you want to believe what they wrote (LOL). Yeah it a fast track car with it's "magic" suspension but 0-60 in 4.4 and quarter mile times of 12.7 at 116 puts it in base Mustang GT territory and the 2015 "specialty" Mustang (GT-350/Mach 1/Bullit/ or etc) will probably run off and hide from it both on the track and street. They've basically equaled the street performance of a 2007 Shelby GT-500 from eight years ago. How much does GM pay those guys for advertising?