I HAVE THE BLACK FR500'S ON MY CAR RIGHT NOW.. 17X9 IN THE FRONT AND 17X10.5 IN THE REAR. The wheels have maybe 1500 miles on them and they look perfect... I am just seein waht people have out there to trade or whatever... I dont need tires, just the wheels... Thanks for the interest you all.... FYI, i really want some chrome fr500's same size.... Thanks again...