Hey guys I'm looking for a 12+ 5L but I can't get over what people think they are worth used . For exp I can buy a new 14 base with 3.73 for 24,400 and leather cars for 28k from quite a few dealers I've looked into and probably will if I can't find a real price on a used one. The proof is in the pudding so to speak I see cars On here just sit and sit and never sell because there truly over priced. If anyone wants to sell one for a sane deal let me know.