written warning question

[Shadow01]

Are written warnings registered state wide or just in the town they were issued?
I was heading home at around 2am and when I came to a light I stopped and as soon as the light changed I floored it going up to around 85 until the next light and then I would repeat it again. I had my Escort 9500ci on and it was quiet the entire night . Anyway, after about my 3rd light I saw a car behind me but couldn't get a clear ID if it was a cop or not since it was so dark so I thought it wasn't a cop due to no radar warnings. So i did my speed up as soon as the light changed the cop never caught up to me until I was at the next light. I suspected he was a cop at this point so I got a clearer look and sure enough it was. This time I didn't speed up and pulled me over. He asked if I knew why he pulled me over and I said nope, he told me he was watching me speed up to 85 after every light , I gave him my info and one of my many PBA cards (i have a friend that supplies me with them). He came back with a written warning and said it would be in the database for a year. He said he paced me as I know he didn't use radar but whatever I wasn't going to argue with him I was grateful for the break.

So is this database limited to his town or can any cop in the state see it if I get stopped again? I don't think I would get another break again after them seeing I was let off with a warning for doing 85 in a 55.

 

[fiveohpoepoe]

I dont know what kind of database he/you are talking about.A little advice is dont flash the PBA cards too much.

 

[94ShoOff]

You probably won't get a universal answer on this. Our warning tickets are departmental only. But........ traffic stops are logged through our MDT's (computers in the cruisers) which is shared by many departments in the area. When running a plate or person, a history will show up with a date and time along with the city that ran it previously.

 

[ralliart16]

what are PBA cards? A google search only suggests Professional Bowlers Association lol

 

[Shadow01]

PBA = Police Benevolent Association

You remember the game of monopoly? Its the real life version of the get out of jail free card (but it does have it limits) . They are mostly given out to special friends and family members of police. I normally only carry one with me and leave the stack at home mostly cause I don't think the cop who stopped me would find it funny that I have an endless supply of them.

And yea I try not to flash them around too much but in this case I kind of had to, noway was I going to eat a 30 over the limit ticket, hehe.

 

[GT_Jim]

Can I get one? lol. Never even heard of those, must be nice to have when the need arises.

 

[RDJ]

PBA = Police Benevolent Association

You remember the game of monopoly? Its the real life version of the get out of jail free card (but it does have it limits) . They are mostly given out to special friends and family members of police. I normally only carry one with me and leave the stack at home mostly cause I don't think the cop who stopped me would find it funny that I have an endless supply of them.

And yea I try not to flash them around too much but in this case I kind of had to, noway was I going to eat a 30 over the limit ticket, hehe.

with any kind of luck in your state the warning will be entered into a statewide database. With your attitude towards what happened and your sense of entitlement because of your "PBA" cards I would wager that your future is not bright. at least we can only hope that is the case.

 

[Shadow01]

what sense of "entitlement"? I wasn't rude or abusive with it and didn't flash/wave it at him like some jackasses do. I handed it with my papers...he looked at it and asked about how I knew the officer, I answered he went back, ran my info and came back with the written warning. Yea I have a stack of them, big deal..Ive been getting them since 2004 and this is the first time I've had to use one, way to over read and misjudge someone, WOW

 

[musclefan21]

nothing bad against you but i personally don't think flashing PBA cars are cool. if i would be the officer and if you would have flashed that card to my face, I would make sure you go home with a ticket not a warning. (just me)

 

[mswaim]

I personally think PBA cards should be done away with. They serve no useful purpose and perpetuate a two-tier justice system that should not exist. There is nothing more priceless than the look of a driver from out-of-state who hands over a PBA card with their license and receive a citation in return.

 

[frankin]

I wonder if a VP of the Teamsters would get a ticket or even a warning. I know one that told me they always let him go. Not even a warning.

 

[RDJ]

what sense of "entitlement"? I wasn't rude or abusive with it and didn't flash/wave it at him like some jackasses do. I handed it with my papers...he looked at it and asked about how I knew the officer, I answered he went back, ran my info and came back with the written warning. Yea I have a stack of them, big deal..Ive been getting them since 2004 and this is the first time I've had to use one, way to over read and misjudge someone, WOW

Here is why you come off as having a sense of entitlement. I will make a list and since this is not smackdown I will do my best to keep it civil.

1. Your having the PBA card is irrelevant to the question at hand. NO ONE needed to know that you used it to get out of your situation before they answered your question. Yet you not only made the fact known that you had one but went on to brag about how you had a whole box full. Why? what was the purpose if it was not to brag about your entitlement?
2. You brag about doing 85mph between lights .. something that even at 2 am is galacticly stupid. do you think you would have been doing that if you didn't have that card in your wallet? again evidence of your sense of entitlement.
3. You see another car behind you, you are apparently worried that it might be a cop but instead of ceasing your immature behavior you continue knowing full well it might be a cop behind you. Again evidence of that you have a sense of entitlement to behave like an ass in your escort.

Over read? nope Misjudge someone? I think not, your words and the tone of your question speak volumes

 

[WVUAnt]

What is the proper etiquette for using your PBA card?

 

[Shadow01]

1. If I didn't say anything about the card a lot of people would have questioned how I gotten out of a 30 over the limit ticket. The card was used to add creditability to the question. Further, I said stack not "whole box" a stack could be 20,10,5, or hell even 3. but yea I will admit that was a little bit of bragging on my part.

2. It's not so much as the card in my wallet I depend on but my equipment (see point 3). The PBA card is merely used as a buffer in case something like this happens. As stated in almost 4 years I have used the card only once and it served its purpose.

3. True about the car but as cops in my state drive 95% of the time with their radar on I thought nothing of it. The escort 95ooci isn't a car, its a state of the art radar detector/laser jammer that gets hard wired into your car. It has the ability to detect KA and instant on bursts for 8-10 miles as well as use GPS to mark known speed trap locations/red light cameras and to filter out false alerts.

@WVUant

The correct etiquette is to discretely pass over the card with your information, the officer will notice it, flip it around to see who signed it and sometimes ask about how you knew the officer that issued it. If you are in a rush and need to park somewhere illegal for a few mins (which i've never done) you have it near your windshield and you will avoid a parking ticket/tow.

the idiots that flash them around at every stop, wave it in the officers face and damn well act like jackasses with the card deserve to have it ripped up and given a ticket as well as a call to the officer about issuing the idiot PBA cards.

 

[RDJ]

1. If I didn't say anything about the card a lot of people would have questioned how I gotten out of a 30 over the limit ticket. The card was used to add creditability to the question.

all you would have had to say is " I got lucky and he cut me a huge break" would have accomplished the same thing.

2. It's not so much as the card in my wallet I depend on but my equipment (see point 3). The PBA card is merely used as a buffer in case something like this happens. As stated in almost 4 years I have used the card only once and it served its purpose.

:shrug: ok ... so you have gotten lucky with having been stupid for 4 years ... congratulations

:lol:
3. True about the car but as cops in my state drive 95% of the time with their radar on I thought nothing of it. The escort 95ooci isn't a car, its a state of the art radar detector/laser jammer that gets hard wired into your car. It has the ability to detect KA and instant on bursts for 8-10 miles as well as use GPS to mark known speed trap locations/red light cameras and to filter out false alerts.

LOL my bad about assuming that the escort was what you drive. gotta love a kid that juices up his car for the express purpose of breaking every law in the books and uses a PBA card as a "backup" one of these days you will discover a thing called KARMA.

I guess it is a good thing I am not an LEO. I would give idiots who tossed up PBA cards a ticket and ticket every thing I could find.

 

[mswaim]

Just to be fair, the California Highway Patrol runs a similar program in our state, their methodology is a bit different. Pay attention to the first two links; the first being the official CHP link. The 11-99 Foundation is a great cause, unfortunately it went out-of-bounds (see second link) when it started selling the plates and badges.

http://www.chp11-99.org/index.htm

http://zo-d.com/stuff/automotive/1199-foundation-license-plate-frame-culture-of-corruption.html


Misc. links concerning PBA cards.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/11/nyregion/11cards.html

http://www.nycpba.org/archive/nd/04/nd-040504-cards.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9907E5DE173EF937A25752C1A9609C8B63


Any system utilized by police unions, POA's, etc. that provides membership cards for family members, relatives, politicians, etc. is nothing short of abuse of power since it grants a form of immunity to the very laws the issuers are sworn to uphold.

 

[Finaltheorem47]

PBA cards, although it would be great to own one, no body is above the law, so why is it you can flash this card and get away with something where others would normally not? Who the hell voted this in?

 

[FordSVTFan]

I wonder if a VP of the Teamsters would get a ticket or even a warning. I know one that told me they always let him go. Not even a warning.

That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[FordSVTFan]

PBA cards, although it would be great to own one, no body is above the law, so why is it you can flash this card and get away with something where others would normally not? Who the hell voted this in?

Nobody voted. This is a courtesy one officer can choose to extend to another officer's designee.

As to the OP describing his version of the "etiquette" to be used, that is not the proper use of a PBA/FOP card. I would have taken the card as it is the property of the PBA, called the person who gave it to him and issued him a summons.

Also, if you are lucky enough to have someone who is a L.E.O. give you a PBA/FOP card, you should never place it on your dashboard when you "need" to park illegally. That simply is crapping on the person who trusted you with their reputation and name, as you are blatantly and knowingly breaking the law and requesting to be treated different.

 

[RDJ]

Nobody voted. This is a courtesy one officer can choose to extend to another officer's designee.

As to the OP describing his version of the "etiquette" to be used, that is not the proper use of a PBA/FOP card. I would have taken the card as it is the property of the PBA, called the person who gave it to him and issued him a summons.

Also, if you are lucky enough to have someone who is a L.E.O. give you a PBA/FOP card, you should never place it on your dashboard when you "need" to park illegally. That simply is crapping on the person who trusted you with their reputation and name, as you are blatantly and knowingly breaking the law and requesting to be treated different.

yet another example of what I was talking about the OPs sense of entitlement.