I did a search and did not find anything on the above, sorry if I overlooked something. I was wondering why the new GT didn't go with a 6 speed. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Why no 6 speed?
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Rio
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too expensive for ford
Thanks for the reply. That sucks. How much more would a six speed run? I have a feeling it will turn up sooner or later.
Rio
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t-56 is pretty pricey.....a lot more than the 3650...
not really necessary for the 05's power level either...but I see where you're coming from....
not really necessary for the 05's power level either...but I see where you're coming from....
In all fairness, I have a SVT Focus with the six speed Getrag. Most of us would prefer the five speed. Why? It'd make drag racing much easier, the first gear is way too high (this might not be applicable to the Mustang, but read on), it's a non-serviceable unit (meaning if something goes wrong, the whole tranny needs to be replaced), and it's only rated for 144 ft/lbs of tourqe. It's extremely weak, and is one of, if not the weak point of the drive train.
Don't focus so much on gimmics. A well done (as reviewers say) and cheaper five speed is much preferable to a weak six speed. You don't want to have to build your tranny for bolt ons.
Don't focus so much on gimmics. A well done (as reviewers say) and cheaper five speed is much preferable to a weak six speed. You don't want to have to build your tranny for bolt ons.
The six speed is a lot heavier as well. It was a decision based on pragmatics and economics. I have to admit I never, and I mean never, use all six speeds in my cobra. On the street its almost always 1,2,3. On the highway, its 1,2,6.
Onivlas said:
Cost goes up exponentially with the tranny's ability to handle torque. Also, the GT Mustang is a nice price for the performance, so why add alot of $$$ for an option with limited appeal?
They should offer, as a factory option, the TKO 500 or TKO 600 since that is the same company that makes the stock tranny for Ford. They could sell it as a severe duty package or something that makes current stuff less "inferior".
The package could include the TKO, Cobra clutch, aluminum D/S, and maybe factory welded in subframes. They could call it the "Bullet" option package
The package could include the TKO, Cobra clutch, aluminum D/S, and maybe factory welded in subframes. They could call it the "Bullet" option package
no t56 because of cost. a 3650 cost what, $1200. a t56 cost $2500-$3000. thats a $1300-$1800 price increase not counting markup. if you are trying to keep the car at the current price level you cant add $1500 of additional cost for a 6 speed, especially since most people who buy this car dont care about how many gears they have. same goes for irs, too expensive.
i myself would take a t56 over a 5 speed anyday (obviously i have one
). a six speed allows for closer gear ratios without fuel mileage penalties like a 5 speed. but to each his own.
i myself would take a t56 over a 5 speed anyday (obviously i have one
). a six speed allows for closer gear ratios without fuel mileage penalties like a 5 speed. but to each his own.Black98COBRA said:no t56 because of cost. a 3650 cost what, $1200. a t56 cost $2500-$3000. thats a $1300-$1800 price increase not counting markup. if you are trying to keep the car at the current price level you cant add $1500 of additional cost for a 6 speed, especially since most people who buy this car dont care about how many gears they have. same goes for irs, too expensive.
i myself would take a t56 over a 5 speed anyday (obviously i have one
Thanks for the great points folks. I agree with your last paragraph Black98COBRA, that's why I posted this thread. ;-)
the extra gear really does make a huge difference. i really only wanted the six speed beacuse it was a six speed but after putting it in i realized how big a difference gears make in the tranny also. you cant go wrong with a t56, i love mine.
6 speeds are for cobras
or for vipers, corvettes, camaros, aston martins or any other performance car. why exclude gt's, they are cool too
I thought "Paddle shifters" were the next new thing on the exotic/performance cars???
Black98COBRA said:no t56 because of cost. a 3650 cost what, $1200. a t56 cost $2500-$3000. thats a $1300-$1800 price increase not counting markup. if you are trying to keep the car at the current price level you cant add $1500 of additional cost for a 6 speed, especially since most people who buy this car dont care about how many gears they have. same goes for irs, too expensive.
i myself would take a t56 over a 5 speed anyday (obviously i have one
uhh... I don't think ford would be paying street price considering they'd be ordering thousands at a time...
it doesnt matter. take something that cost $3000 and buy thousands. then buy thousands of something that cost $1200. which is going to be more expensive? the one that cost $3000 of course. the t56 will always be more expensive than a 3650.
Kovachian said:
Its called keeping a 300hp RWD car in the same price range as a fwd 180hp Celica. Plus, it really doesnt do anything for the cars powerband range. The 6th in Vipers and Vettes are virtually useless.
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My sixth gear is anything but useless. I use it everyday. It's what allows my cars like mine to cruise the interstates at ridiculous speeds all the while maintaining respectably low rpm. :burnout:KevinB120 said:
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