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When are YOU considered a deadly weapon?
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<blockquote data-quote="FordSVTFan" data-source="post: 10357485" data-attributes="member: 2243"><p>The person physically touching your friend does what? If the person who gets "touched" feels that there is an imminent danger he may defend himself. In some states a friend can come to his rescue and use the same amount of force the actual victim could use however that force still must be reasonable. Also, if you are wrong and the victim would not have used force you are liable. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, if you dislocate someone's shoulder or tear their knee ligaments in response to touching that is an unreasonable response and you are likely to be brought up on criminal charges as well as civil. </p><p></p><p>BTW, what is assult? Do you mean "assault?"</p><p></p><p>Also, the "when are you considered a deadly weapon" comes from watching way too much tv. Some people are trained to defend themselves, others are simply nuts, and some people have natural ability, regardless your response must be reasonable. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Loud and encroaching on your personal space is the definition of the bar scene. Therefore without an overt act your actions are unreasonable. For liability see above. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are always allowed to defend yourself but it must be reasonable and in proportion to the initial attack. It also must end the minute the threat is gone. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You assault someone while unconscious that turns you into the aggressor and you most likely will be charged. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In some areas it might be an aggravator if you are a professional, but not just because of the training. And the charge was aggravated the prosecution would have to prove that you used your training in an unreasonable fashion. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That did not happen in the U.S. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Regardless of your training you can respond to an immediate threat with the same level of force presented and must do so reasonably and stop as soon as the threat is gone. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You must say it with a Dolph Lundgren accent: "I'll punish you." Followed by an evil laugh.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You too? :beer:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really, what is the bad info?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? If you are talking about special operators they might consider it an aggravator. But any person can act as a deadly weapon, but in general we dont classify a person as a deadly weapon. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who considered him a "lethal weapon?" Did he have to wear a sign or something?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FordSVTFan, post: 10357485, member: 2243"] The person physically touching your friend does what? If the person who gets "touched" feels that there is an imminent danger he may defend himself. In some states a friend can come to his rescue and use the same amount of force the actual victim could use however that force still must be reasonable. Also, if you are wrong and the victim would not have used force you are liable. Additionally, if you dislocate someone's shoulder or tear their knee ligaments in response to touching that is an unreasonable response and you are likely to be brought up on criminal charges as well as civil. BTW, what is assult? Do you mean "assault?" Also, the "when are you considered a deadly weapon" comes from watching way too much tv. Some people are trained to defend themselves, others are simply nuts, and some people have natural ability, regardless your response must be reasonable. Loud and encroaching on your personal space is the definition of the bar scene. Therefore without an overt act your actions are unreasonable. For liability see above. You are always allowed to defend yourself but it must be reasonable and in proportion to the initial attack. It also must end the minute the threat is gone. You assault someone while unconscious that turns you into the aggressor and you most likely will be charged. In some areas it might be an aggravator if you are a professional, but not just because of the training. And the charge was aggravated the prosecution would have to prove that you used your training in an unreasonable fashion. That did not happen in the U.S. Regardless of your training you can respond to an immediate threat with the same level of force presented and must do so reasonably and stop as soon as the threat is gone. You must say it with a Dolph Lundgren accent: "I'll punish you." Followed by an evil laugh. You too? :beer: Really, what is the bad info? Really? If you are talking about special operators they might consider it an aggravator. But any person can act as a deadly weapon, but in general we dont classify a person as a deadly weapon. Who considered him a "lethal weapon?" Did he have to wear a sign or something? [/QUOTE]
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