What will it make?

[TEAL 93 SVT]

Anyone with a similar combo have number's they can post.
93 cobra short block
Ported Edelbrock performer heads (60cc) should be about 9.2:1
1.6 roller rockers
Trick flow stage 2 cam.
Stock intake, TB & mass
1-5/8" shorty headers
Non catted H pipe
Magnaflow
3:55's

 

[buddha93]

Nice little NA combo. If I had to guess, 330 rwhp.

I had a similar combo back in the day an it went 12.80 on slicks with a 3.73 gear.

My buddy made 310 rwhp with an a TFS head, straight out of the box.

 

[scotmach]

Stock intake, TB & mass

Nice little NA combo. If I had to guess, 330 rwhp.

Your kidding right?:rollseyes

 

[buddha93]

Your kidding right?:rollseyes

All day long buddy.The OEM stuff can easily make that in NA form with the right set of heads.


My old combo with a set of stock Edelbrock heads, 1.6 RR, 1 5/8" shorties, 65 TB, GT-40 intake, and a 73mm C&L with 19lb injectors made over 300 rwhp.

 

[BrettT 93|03]

All day long buddy.The OEM stuff can easily make that in NA form with the right set of heads.


My old combo with a set of stock Edelbrock heads, 1.6 RR, 1 5/8" shorties, 65 TB, GT-40 intake, and a 73mm C&L with 19lb injectors made over 300 rwhp.

^^^^X2 Agreed. Easily make 300-340hp on a NA combo. Look at what Ford is advertising for their long block. Stock block, Gt-40 X heads, E-303 cam for 340 hp.

The right Cam, good heads, intake, and compresion ratio raised to atleast 10.1. You could make over 350hp..... On pump gas also.

Shoot, back in the day. I had a stock block, B-cam, HOME ported Gt-40, Gt-40 intake EXTRUNED HONE, R-trim Blower @ 15lbs on 116 octane, 3500 Stall C-4 in a 3400 lb car.....ran 10.60's all day long. Went a best of 2 runs in the FALL time of 10.40's. Now I didn't have a dyno to run to and see what HP it made. Used the old Wieght, Mph, ET to figure HP back in the mid-90's. I figured that I was makeing just about 525 hp.

 

[scotmach]

^^^^X2 Agreed. Easily make 300-340hp on a NA combo. Look at what Ford is advertising for their long block. Stock block, Gt-40 X heads, E-303 cam for 340 hp.

The right Cam, good heads, intake, and compresion ratio raised to atleast 10.1. You could make over 350hp..... On pump gas also.

Ford rates their motor at the flywheel, not the rear wheels. Plus the OP said he was using his stock intake throttle body and MAF.

 

[BiLL1024]

The stock intake is a GT40 lower, Cobra upper, 70mm maf and 65mm TB, compression was 9.5:1
That FRPP motor is 340 crank - 15% line loss or so, would be 295ish-RWHP- + it is 9:1 CR
My guess is 300 RWHP, IF the heads and cam are better than the FRPP motors, maybe a bit more.
I just put that FRPP 306-340hp in my 93 Cobra. I can see a difference over the stock 235hp stock motor.
I just got it back yesterday, runs real well. I haven't got on it real hard yet only has 150 miles on it.
I can tell it pulls harder, it kicks in at 2500 rpm.
I am waiting to brake in the clutch and motor. Then I will let her rip through the gears!!!!

 

[buddha93]

IF the heads and cam are better than the FRPP motors

By a long shot.

 

[buddha93]

Ford rates their motor at the flywheel, not the rear wheels. Plus the OP said he was using his stock intake throttle body and MAF.

The stock intake and TB aren't an issue with this combo. Just about perfect actually for a good street car. Lots of torque down low where you want it.

 

[TX93Cobra]

agree about the sizes of the TB and Maf being fine... Im willing to bet its a 300-310 rwhp 330-340 ftlb car.

 

[TEAL 93 SVT]

Thanks guy's. Once I get it all together and the salt is off the streets, Ill get it on the dyno and let ya know.

 

[TFStang]

That combo should be good for 295 - 305 at the wheels. I would be very surprised if you get more than 305 to the wheels considering that is a pretty cookie cutter combo you have. I know I had a similar combo at one point in one of my cars except I had TFS Track Heat heads, TFS stage 1 cam, 75mm meter and 80mm TB, TFS Track Heat intake and it made 304 to the wheels.

The Holley Systemax kit is also pretty much the same thing and all these cookie cutter combos are around 300 or so at the wheels. Having been through quite a few of these combos, the best you will get, and that is going BIG on everything is probably about 330 RWHP.

Should be a fun set up.

 

[TEAL 93 SVT]

Ok, I would be ok with 300 to the wheel's. If It does not make that, I'm going to get an intake for it. That should be able to put 330 with the right edelbrock intake.

 

[buddha93]

Well, it all depends on whose dyno your using too, as well as inertia vs. load bearing. Obviously I was speaking to an inertia dyno, and my 330 number was a best world number. I still don't see why it shouldn't bust out an easy 315 number. If it doesn't make the numbers, I'd look at a custom cam before anything.

 

[racerbox77]

Anyone with a similar combo have number's they can post.
93 cobra short block
Ported Edelbrock performer heads (60cc) should be about 9.2:1
1.6 roller rockers
Trick flow stage 2 cam.
Stock intake, TB & mass
1-5/8" shorty headers
Non catted H pipe
Magnaflow
3:55's

If its dyno tuned I would say around 300. Whats holding it back is probably the air intake. Next mods should be a larger mass air meter (77-80mm)and an Anderson Power Pipe with a large conical K+N. Then your in the 320-340 range.
Of course we don't know how the heads were ported, could be a good gain or depending on who did it they could lose a lot of low end power.

I'd say you're starting off with a good set up. Now grab a supercharger! :rockon:

 

[TEAL 93 SVT]

If its dyno tuned I would say around 300. Whats holding it back is probably the air intake. Next mods should be a larger mass air meter (77-80mm)and an Anderson Power Pipe with a large conical K+N. Then your in the 320-340 range.
Of course we don't know how the heads were ported, could be a good gain or depending on who did it they could lose a lot of low end power.

I'd say you're starting off with a good set up. Now grab a supercharger! :rockon:

Forgot to say it has a cold air on it also.
I'm planning on building a turbo kit for it next winter.
We have already built one for a friend's 93GT. Dart 336, hiports, spyder, 76mm. Hoping for 800. Still working on the tune.
BTW if anyone is interested, we are building a "big boy" turbo kit. 76mm based. Should be priced around $3,500. I'll send ya pics.

 

[tommygun]

I had a stock 93 engine that I milled the heads from 62cc to 58cc and did a nice valve job. Put on 1.72 steeda rockers and bassani long tubes/dynomax exhaust. It did 299/341 with the stock intake, stock maf, and 19lb injectors.

the combo listed should made 300-315rwhp given it has supporting mods.

300rwhp is good for low 12s at 110-112 on avg full weight.

 

[USMarksman91]

I guess 290rwhp. The intake stock is decent because dont the cobras have a higher flowing intake manifold over the gt's? Probably already stated in this thread im sure, just didn't read it all, But Yea 290rwhp would be awesome and that would be at minimum, I have that 5.0 ford dyno test book written by richard holden and its not in front of me but just from reading all those numbers and combinations id guess you will be between 285-305 rwhp right there. And its light, And you will make at least 340 rwtq. Will feel solid, cant wait to see what you pull man, good luck!

 

[USMarksman91]

I had a stock 93 engine that I milled the heads from 62cc to 58cc and did a nice valve job. Put on 1.72 steeda rockers and bassani long tubes/dynomax exhaust. It did 299/341 with the stock intake, stock maf, and 19lb injectors.

the combo listed should made 300-315rwhp given it has supporting mods.

300rwhp is good for low 12s at 110-112 on avg full weight.

The only one thing that may suck away a little power on the OP's dyno is the fact that he has shorty headers and not long tube, with all those mods LT's would have netted him at least 5-10 rwhp

 

[Mach&Roll]

Good to know these little cars can make some good power with some motor changes.