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What does a new Volt cost?
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<blockquote data-quote="James Snover" data-source="post: 13720651" data-attributes="member: 67454"><p>If you're happy buying an electric car with eight year old batteries, go for it.</p><p></p><p>GM's battery patent: Great. I'd love to see some details, I hope it works.</p><p></p><p>Software repairable batteries: never seen any such critter.</p><p></p><p>I work in the medical industry. Everything has li-ion batteries these days. From defibrillators to portable x-ray machines. We use medical grade batteries from a very limited list of suppliers. Li-ions fail _all_ the time. All batteries fail, and the more power a battery can hold, the more likely it will fail. Li-ions almost _never_ last their rated life time.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned electric RC cars and planes. I love nothing better than outrunning my buddies running gas with my electric SC10 4X4, listening to them wail, "Thats not faaaaiiirrr!"</p><p></p><p>Electric is the way of the future, but the battery is the #1 stumbling point. Make a battery that can safely hold all the energy of a sixteen-gallon tank of gas, that will last at least five years, and that doesn't cost as much as my house, and the world will buy electric faster than you can push them out the door.</p><p></p><p>The #2 stumbling point is recharging. I'm not buying an electric car that takes an hour to recharge, when I can buy a gas car and re-fill and be back on the road in ten minutes. </p><p></p><p>#3 is price: I'm not paying one dime more for less capability than I can get now from gas. There is no reason an electric car should cost more than a gas car; in fact they should be considerably less expensive. Electric motors and electric motor controllers have been in production for over 100 years, we know everything there is to know about how to do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Snover, post: 13720651, member: 67454"] If you're happy buying an electric car with eight year old batteries, go for it. GM's battery patent: Great. I'd love to see some details, I hope it works. Software repairable batteries: never seen any such critter. I work in the medical industry. Everything has li-ion batteries these days. From defibrillators to portable x-ray machines. We use medical grade batteries from a very limited list of suppliers. Li-ions fail _all_ the time. All batteries fail, and the more power a battery can hold, the more likely it will fail. Li-ions almost _never_ last their rated life time. You mentioned electric RC cars and planes. I love nothing better than outrunning my buddies running gas with my electric SC10 4X4, listening to them wail, "Thats not faaaaiiirrr!" Electric is the way of the future, but the battery is the #1 stumbling point. Make a battery that can safely hold all the energy of a sixteen-gallon tank of gas, that will last at least five years, and that doesn't cost as much as my house, and the world will buy electric faster than you can push them out the door. The #2 stumbling point is recharging. I'm not buying an electric car that takes an hour to recharge, when I can buy a gas car and re-fill and be back on the road in ten minutes. #3 is price: I'm not paying one dime more for less capability than I can get now from gas. There is no reason an electric car should cost more than a gas car; in fact they should be considerably less expensive. Electric motors and electric motor controllers have been in production for over 100 years, we know everything there is to know about how to do it. [/QUOTE]
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