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<blockquote data-quote="GT Premi" data-source="post: 15672298" data-attributes="member: 121775"><p>Let me guess. It was one of their $40 I-Force Wal-Mart specials with a silicone band? What did you expect? And a dead battery signifies nothing. My car battery died in less than 4 years. Does that make the whole car a piece of crap? Who knows how long that watch had been sitting in inventory. Stores don't go around changing batteries in watches.</p><p></p><p>Long-ass read follows, but bear with me.</p><p></p><p>So, here's the thing. What I've noticed <em>the most</em> about the watch snobs is that they continually want to compare Invicta's sub-$100 watches against $1K+ watches from the higher end brands. That in and of itself is ridiculous. On top of that, why do they even try to make comparisons at all? The Invicta company, as far as I know, has never marketed itself as a Rolex, Breitling, Patek Phillipe, Devon, etc. competitor. Yet the watch snobs will go <em>straight</em> to talking about those brands any time Invicta is brought up in a watch conversation. Why is that? Is it because of Invicta's ridiculously inflated MSRPs? I'm guessing so. But that still makes no sense because nobody in their right mind pays full MSRP for an Invicta. From my personal experience, the typical going rate for an Invicta is between 8 and 11 percent of the MSRP on the box. Some of the harder to find pieces sell for higher, though. Yes, there are hard-to-find Invictas, if you're looking for something from the Reserve collection.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of their Reserve collection, if any comparisons to higher end pieces are to be made, the Reserve collection is where to start <em>and end</em>. That is unquestionably Invicta's best built collection. Hence, why they call it "Reserve." They're made with better materials, have Swiss movements, and are in some part handmade. Does that mean it's going to be as good as a Patek Phillipe Grandmaster Chime? Of course not! Don't be ridiculous. What you <em>do</em> compare it to is any other watch on the market <em>at the same price point</em>. But check out Exhibit A:</p><p></p><p><img src="https://uhrforum.de/attachments/538561d1356873964-kroenender-jahresabschluss-rolex-submariner-16610-v10.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>To a casual observer, those are the exact same watch. However, the one on the left is an Invicta Pro Diver and the one of the right is a Rolex Submariner. I'm guessing that is from a watch snob comparison to pick apart the Invicta. But why even make the comparison? One costs maybe $80. (I don't even own an Invicta that cheap.) The other is over $5K. That's not how it works. However, to my eye, were it not for the brand names on the face, I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between them just from looking at them. Side-by-side, I can see the Invicta is slightly bigger, but if two guys walked by at different times each wearing one of those, I'd think it was the same watch. I think Invicta <em>has</em> said the Pro Diver line is an homage to the Rolex Submariner line. They basically copy the look in almost exact detail. They're both automatics, but get this. The Invicta has a <strong><em>Seiko</em></strong> movement! So, if you want to compare it to something, compare it to a Seiko. BUT we always get stuff like Exhibit B from the snobs. (Not that the guy in this particular video is a snob.)</p><p></p><p>Exhibit B:</p><p>NOTE: The Invicta in this video is NOT the same model pictured above. The one in the video uses a quartz movement. Just watch the first 2:40.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]vHabaFjcHrs[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>Exhibit C:</p><p>Another $80 Invicta compared to $250 Seiko, $1400 Oris, $3500 Omega, and <strong>$8000</strong> Rolex.</p><p>It's a long video.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]u3IWov7lrrk[/MEDIA]</p><p>To be fair, this video isn't one trashing the Invicta but rather something showcasing the different tiers of dive watches. But come on. An $80 Invicta in a comparison with an $8000 Rolex? Why? Even the Seiko was over 3x the price of the Invicta. Notice the movements listed on the graphic at the end; specifically the Seiko movement in the Invicta and the ETA movement in the Omega.</p><p></p><p>Knowing all that, watch snobs will still trash on Invicta while trying to compare it to watches costing 100x more.</p><p></p><p>I know this post makes me look like a massive Invicta fanboy. I'm actually not. It's just that when people make such outrageous direct comparisons, it defies all logic and sends me on a tangent. I'm not saying anybody <em>here</em> made comparisons. It's just a very common occurrence I see on watch forums and sites.</p><p></p><p>If anybody read all this, THANKS!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GT Premi, post: 15672298, member: 121775"] Let me guess. It was one of their $40 I-Force Wal-Mart specials with a silicone band? What did you expect? And a dead battery signifies nothing. My car battery died in less than 4 years. Does that make the whole car a piece of crap? Who knows how long that watch had been sitting in inventory. Stores don't go around changing batteries in watches. Long-ass read follows, but bear with me. So, here's the thing. What I've noticed [i]the most[/i] about the watch snobs is that they continually want to compare Invicta's sub-$100 watches against $1K+ watches from the higher end brands. That in and of itself is ridiculous. On top of that, why do they even try to make comparisons at all? The Invicta company, as far as I know, has never marketed itself as a Rolex, Breitling, Patek Phillipe, Devon, etc. competitor. Yet the watch snobs will go [i]straight[/i] to talking about those brands any time Invicta is brought up in a watch conversation. Why is that? Is it because of Invicta's ridiculously inflated MSRPs? I'm guessing so. But that still makes no sense because nobody in their right mind pays full MSRP for an Invicta. From my personal experience, the typical going rate for an Invicta is between 8 and 11 percent of the MSRP on the box. Some of the harder to find pieces sell for higher, though. Yes, there are hard-to-find Invictas, if you're looking for something from the Reserve collection. Speaking of their Reserve collection, if any comparisons to higher end pieces are to be made, the Reserve collection is where to start [i]and end[/i]. That is unquestionably Invicta's best built collection. Hence, why they call it "Reserve." They're made with better materials, have Swiss movements, and are in some part handmade. Does that mean it's going to be as good as a Patek Phillipe Grandmaster Chime? Of course not! Don't be ridiculous. What you [i]do[/i] compare it to is any other watch on the market [i]at the same price point[/i]. But check out Exhibit A: [IMG]https://uhrforum.de/attachments/538561d1356873964-kroenender-jahresabschluss-rolex-submariner-16610-v10.jpg[/IMG] To a casual observer, those are the exact same watch. However, the one on the left is an Invicta Pro Diver and the one of the right is a Rolex Submariner. I'm guessing that is from a watch snob comparison to pick apart the Invicta. But why even make the comparison? One costs maybe $80. (I don't even own an Invicta that cheap.) The other is over $5K. That's not how it works. However, to my eye, were it not for the brand names on the face, I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between them just from looking at them. Side-by-side, I can see the Invicta is slightly bigger, but if two guys walked by at different times each wearing one of those, I'd think it was the same watch. I think Invicta [i]has[/i] said the Pro Diver line is an homage to the Rolex Submariner line. They basically copy the look in almost exact detail. They're both automatics, but get this. The Invicta has a [b][i]Seiko[/i][/b] movement! So, if you want to compare it to something, compare it to a Seiko. BUT we always get stuff like Exhibit B from the snobs. (Not that the guy in this particular video is a snob.) Exhibit B: NOTE: The Invicta in this video is NOT the same model pictured above. The one in the video uses a quartz movement. Just watch the first 2:40. [MEDIA=youtube]vHabaFjcHrs[/MEDIA] Exhibit C: Another $80 Invicta compared to $250 Seiko, $1400 Oris, $3500 Omega, and [b]$8000[/b] Rolex. It's a long video. [MEDIA=youtube]u3IWov7lrrk[/MEDIA] To be fair, this video isn't one trashing the Invicta but rather something showcasing the different tiers of dive watches. But come on. An $80 Invicta in a comparison with an $8000 Rolex? Why? Even the Seiko was over 3x the price of the Invicta. Notice the movements listed on the graphic at the end; specifically the Seiko movement in the Invicta and the ETA movement in the Omega. Knowing all that, watch snobs will still trash on Invicta while trying to compare it to watches costing 100x more. I know this post makes me look like a massive Invicta fanboy. I'm actually not. It's just that when people make such outrageous direct comparisons, it defies all logic and sends me on a tangent. I'm not saying anybody [i]here[/i] made comparisons. It's just a very common occurrence I see on watch forums and sites. If anybody read all this, THANKS! [/QUOTE]
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