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Venom F14 '03 Cobra Brake Kit - Installation
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Hidley" data-source="post: 9842376" data-attributes="member: 17703"><p>Greg,</p><p></p><p>Yes, basically the temperature of the brake pad and fluid should vary up and down more quickly than the rotor itself, so the pad and fluid are more susceptible to overheating when you brake very late, putting more power into the brake system. </p><p></p><p>I've never seen anyone fade brakes from braking too early before the corner. I've only seen it happen when braking too late. </p><p></p><p>Tom,</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if you know who the owner of Vintage Venom is, Rob Eaton. The link below has a short blurb on his history at Ford. I only bring this up, because I think it is good evidence that he isn't some yahoo who doesn't know how to do brake testing. </p><p></p><p>It does seem to me that his brake test temperatures are pretty low, but as long as they were running consistent lap times with similar brake points, I don't think that will affect the results in a meaningful way. I don't remember where they were placing the IR sensor or if it was even calibrated for the emissivity of the object it was pointed at. </p><p></p><p>I haven't done any instrumented testing of his 14" brake kit. I believe that Scott W did some testing of a different 13"/14" brake kits at Rehagen a couple years ago. </p><p></p><p>***I just looked at the chart that Jimmy posted in this thread***</p><p></p><p>There is a bunch more data on the temperature testing that Rob E did and posted on some other forums. I'll put a link to it below, I'm not sure if it will get censored or not.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://blogs.mustang50magazine.com/6639866/miscellaneous/ford-mustang-engineer-brakes-out-the-ultimate-14-sn95-front-brake-package/index.html" target="_blank">Ford Mustang Engineer</a></p><p></p><p>[ame=http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1228257]Brake Cooling Duct Testing - Temperature Results - Corral.net : Ford Mustang Forums[/ame]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Hidley, post: 9842376, member: 17703"] Greg, Yes, basically the temperature of the brake pad and fluid should vary up and down more quickly than the rotor itself, so the pad and fluid are more susceptible to overheating when you brake very late, putting more power into the brake system. I've never seen anyone fade brakes from braking too early before the corner. I've only seen it happen when braking too late. Tom, I'm not sure if you know who the owner of Vintage Venom is, Rob Eaton. The link below has a short blurb on his history at Ford. I only bring this up, because I think it is good evidence that he isn't some yahoo who doesn't know how to do brake testing. It does seem to me that his brake test temperatures are pretty low, but as long as they were running consistent lap times with similar brake points, I don't think that will affect the results in a meaningful way. I don't remember where they were placing the IR sensor or if it was even calibrated for the emissivity of the object it was pointed at. I haven't done any instrumented testing of his 14" brake kit. I believe that Scott W did some testing of a different 13"/14" brake kits at Rehagen a couple years ago. ***I just looked at the chart that Jimmy posted in this thread*** There is a bunch more data on the temperature testing that Rob E did and posted on some other forums. I'll put a link to it below, I'm not sure if it will get censored or not. [url=http://blogs.mustang50magazine.com/6639866/miscellaneous/ford-mustang-engineer-brakes-out-the-ultimate-14-sn95-front-brake-package/index.html]Ford Mustang Engineer[/url] [ame=http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1228257]Brake Cooling Duct Testing - Temperature Results - Corral.net : Ford Mustang Forums[/ame] [/QUOTE]
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