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<blockquote data-quote="shelbysvt" data-source="post: 13187744" data-attributes="member: 140849"><p>Nope I had a gear whine issue that went all the way to the regional manager of the east coast for Ford and they blamed my ford racing springs for it. But thats ok my own mechanic fixed it.</p><p></p><p>Definition of fraud: In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent, and verb is defraud. Fraud is a crime and a civil law violation, though the specific criminal law definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud. A hoax also involves deception, but without the intention of gain or of damaging or depriving the victim. Fraud is a defense in a civil action for breach of contract or specific performance of a contract. Fraud is a basis for equitable jurisdiction.</p><p></p><p>So lets analyze this definition. The guy asked if buying a different computer and when the motor blows from a tune, to swap that other computer so that it appears the car is stock. Well this is intentional deception made for personal gain so that is fraud. </p><p></p><p>Now lets look at the last part where it says breach of contract or performance of a contract. When we buy ford cars or any brand we get put into a binding contract with rules. If we follow the rules and they deny use coverage that is also a form of fraud because that is a breach of contract. For example if my seats wear out and because I have a different blower on my car they deny warranty well then that is fraud. </p><p></p><p>But here is where the issue gets grey and causes problems. When say we have a part like my issue with my springs, could they cause the gear whine? We all know the answer is no. But ford will say that I changed the geometry of my car and that was not its intended purpose which then causes a negative effect and uses that excuse to breach my contract with them. That is why the other law was passed to keep dealerships and corporations from doing this to the customer. But again it is a grey area because could I fight them? Yes. Could I win? Probably. In this case. But to what end? How much money is it going to cost me to get them to give me new gears and fix the rear end? More than the 300 dollars I paid to fix it myself. </p><p></p><p>This is why many dealerships play games because the costs usually out weight the benefits and they know that. Ford and every other corporation knows this. Now unless your motor blows up and they try to blame your springs that is a different story but that rarely happens.</p><p></p><p>Now since you love aruging with everyone on this forum who disagrees with you, if you don't see the logic and the path I laid out for you in this post, well then I'll say it right now you are right, I am wrong, and I don't care to fight with you over it and let it drag on for 10 pages on the forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shelbysvt, post: 13187744, member: 140849"] Nope I had a gear whine issue that went all the way to the regional manager of the east coast for Ford and they blamed my ford racing springs for it. But thats ok my own mechanic fixed it. Definition of fraud: In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent, and verb is defraud. Fraud is a crime and a civil law violation, though the specific criminal law definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud. A hoax also involves deception, but without the intention of gain or of damaging or depriving the victim. Fraud is a defense in a civil action for breach of contract or specific performance of a contract. Fraud is a basis for equitable jurisdiction. So lets analyze this definition. The guy asked if buying a different computer and when the motor blows from a tune, to swap that other computer so that it appears the car is stock. Well this is intentional deception made for personal gain so that is fraud. Now lets look at the last part where it says breach of contract or performance of a contract. When we buy ford cars or any brand we get put into a binding contract with rules. If we follow the rules and they deny use coverage that is also a form of fraud because that is a breach of contract. For example if my seats wear out and because I have a different blower on my car they deny warranty well then that is fraud. But here is where the issue gets grey and causes problems. When say we have a part like my issue with my springs, could they cause the gear whine? We all know the answer is no. But ford will say that I changed the geometry of my car and that was not its intended purpose which then causes a negative effect and uses that excuse to breach my contract with them. That is why the other law was passed to keep dealerships and corporations from doing this to the customer. But again it is a grey area because could I fight them? Yes. Could I win? Probably. In this case. But to what end? How much money is it going to cost me to get them to give me new gears and fix the rear end? More than the 300 dollars I paid to fix it myself. This is why many dealerships play games because the costs usually out weight the benefits and they know that. Ford and every other corporation knows this. Now unless your motor blows up and they try to blame your springs that is a different story but that rarely happens. Now since you love aruging with everyone on this forum who disagrees with you, if you don't see the logic and the path I laid out for you in this post, well then I'll say it right now you are right, I am wrong, and I don't care to fight with you over it and let it drag on for 10 pages on the forum. [/QUOTE]
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