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Tuning À la carte
To tune myself or seek a tuner?
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<blockquote data-quote="Don 95Vert" data-source="post: 13865395" data-attributes="member: 15121"><p>First off, I do tunes all the time at remote locations with no internet and load tunes to X3's etc. I doubt they go to SCT. The issue that is getting muddied is in the user agreement for dealers and Pro Racers. SCT makes you agree and sign that they own the products of their tuning. They don't actually want them. They did this mainly because a couple dirt bags were illegally grabbing the work of good tuners and then selling them as their own when they were not even dealers. SCT did this so they would have legal grounds to protect the dealers from this crap.</p><p></p><p>I use both BE/Moates and SCT. For earlier vehicles (OBD1) NOTHING beats BE/Moates. For later vehicles, my opinion is SCT is the better choice. And I use each a lot. BE/Moates will work well for later vehicles if you get decent strategies and that means paying for them. Live updating/tuning is not all it is cracked upto be. It is helpful for idle at times. But even with BE/Moates, I usually shut the car off anyway when updating the tune.</p><p></p><p>No matter what option you choose, for sure tune it yourself. Every single single tuner out there, all the best shops and legendary tuners started with one car back when they were pretty clueless. No one is born with innate tuning knowledge. Most shops, and I see a lot of different shops, the guys doing the tuning are average intelligence. The successful ones, take their time and just use good common sense. Unless you do something really dumb, you probably won't trash your motor. Once you start tuning, you'll see how empowering it is - you will no longer have to pay for tuning because once you have the knowledge, you cannot have it taken away. The advantage you will have over dyno shops, is, rather than have a shop spend 2-6 hours dynotuning it, you can fiddle away for 3 weeks if you want, getting things exactly correct. You won't have to make phone calls or email and wait for a response. It can be intimidating at first, when you see what looks like a million parameters to adjust, but you soon will realize that you will only have to touch a few of them, especially if you get a base tune with whatever package you decide to get.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps,</p><p></p><p>Don LaSota</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Don 95Vert, post: 13865395, member: 15121"] First off, I do tunes all the time at remote locations with no internet and load tunes to X3's etc. I doubt they go to SCT. The issue that is getting muddied is in the user agreement for dealers and Pro Racers. SCT makes you agree and sign that they own the products of their tuning. They don't actually want them. They did this mainly because a couple dirt bags were illegally grabbing the work of good tuners and then selling them as their own when they were not even dealers. SCT did this so they would have legal grounds to protect the dealers from this crap. I use both BE/Moates and SCT. For earlier vehicles (OBD1) NOTHING beats BE/Moates. For later vehicles, my opinion is SCT is the better choice. And I use each a lot. BE/Moates will work well for later vehicles if you get decent strategies and that means paying for them. Live updating/tuning is not all it is cracked upto be. It is helpful for idle at times. But even with BE/Moates, I usually shut the car off anyway when updating the tune. No matter what option you choose, for sure tune it yourself. Every single single tuner out there, all the best shops and legendary tuners started with one car back when they were pretty clueless. No one is born with innate tuning knowledge. Most shops, and I see a lot of different shops, the guys doing the tuning are average intelligence. The successful ones, take their time and just use good common sense. Unless you do something really dumb, you probably won't trash your motor. Once you start tuning, you'll see how empowering it is - you will no longer have to pay for tuning because once you have the knowledge, you cannot have it taken away. The advantage you will have over dyno shops, is, rather than have a shop spend 2-6 hours dynotuning it, you can fiddle away for 3 weeks if you want, getting things exactly correct. You won't have to make phone calls or email and wait for a response. It can be intimidating at first, when you see what looks like a million parameters to adjust, but you soon will realize that you will only have to touch a few of them, especially if you get a base tune with whatever package you decide to get. Hope this helps, Don LaSota [/QUOTE]
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