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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 16247734" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>Most vw group dct and dsg stuff loses around 30whp in ff setups, and 40whp in awd setups.</p><p></p><p>The dct in the gt500 is a big boy, as is the driveshaft, and it’s turning 28” tall rears.</p><p></p><p>One other thing, the carbon wheel gt500 will have less drivetrain loss and sits lower. Just removing the wing and dive planes on a carbon equipped car should be a recipe for the quickest gt500 for rolls. I bet that would reach 180mph very quickly.</p><p></p><p>Cofd and whp dictate top speed and trap speed far more so than lbs/hp.</p><p></p><p>Look at a few oddballs throughout history. The 4500lbs 510hp Ram SRT was trapping 103-107 auto-manual meanwhile the auto only charger at 4500lbs runs almosg 115mph in scatpack guise with 485hp. That’s do to rotational mass in the wheels, drag coefficient, and the a8 ratios.</p><p></p><p>Here’s the 4500lbs quick silver single cab going 107mph with a 6spd auto and 470hp and they talk about an srt10 Ram</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.motortrend.com/news/ram-392-quick-silver-concept-first-test/" target="_blank">Ram 392 Quick Silver Concept First Test - MotorTrend</a></p><p></p><p>I brought up cofd a few days back and again, .05 matters a lot. This truck is something like .45+ meanwhile the charger is .35, the 200lbs difference between this truck and a charger scatpack isn’t eating up 5-8mph at the strip</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/challenger/2019/2019-dodge-challenger-r-t-scat-pack-1320-review/" target="_blank">2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Review: A Singular Mission - MotorTrend</a></p><p>This 485hp challenger does 115 with a transbrake, a8, weight pulled, kill mode, hero run. </p><p></p><p>A loaded 4K lb auto 19 gt can trap 120 with 460hp. 300lbs isn’t 5mph at these levels.</p><p></p><p>Take 300lbs out of a Miata and it’ll be noticeable though. It’d be about 12.5%. 300lbs our of 4300lbs is maybe 7%</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 16247734, member: 68944"] Most vw group dct and dsg stuff loses around 30whp in ff setups, and 40whp in awd setups. The dct in the gt500 is a big boy, as is the driveshaft, and it’s turning 28” tall rears. One other thing, the carbon wheel gt500 will have less drivetrain loss and sits lower. Just removing the wing and dive planes on a carbon equipped car should be a recipe for the quickest gt500 for rolls. I bet that would reach 180mph very quickly. Cofd and whp dictate top speed and trap speed far more so than lbs/hp. Look at a few oddballs throughout history. The 4500lbs 510hp Ram SRT was trapping 103-107 auto-manual meanwhile the auto only charger at 4500lbs runs almosg 115mph in scatpack guise with 485hp. That’s do to rotational mass in the wheels, drag coefficient, and the a8 ratios. Here’s the 4500lbs quick silver single cab going 107mph with a 6spd auto and 470hp and they talk about an srt10 Ram [URL='https://www.motortrend.com/news/ram-392-quick-silver-concept-first-test/']Ram 392 Quick Silver Concept First Test - MotorTrend[/URL] I brought up cofd a few days back and again, .05 matters a lot. This truck is something like .45+ meanwhile the charger is .35, the 200lbs difference between this truck and a charger scatpack isn’t eating up 5-8mph at the strip [URL="https://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/challenger/2019/2019-dodge-challenger-r-t-scat-pack-1320-review/"]2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Review: A Singular Mission - MotorTrend[/URL] This 485hp challenger does 115 with a transbrake, a8, weight pulled, kill mode, hero run. A loaded 4K lb auto 19 gt can trap 120 with 460hp. 300lbs isn’t 5mph at these levels. Take 300lbs out of a Miata and it’ll be noticeable though. It’d be about 12.5%. 300lbs our of 4300lbs is maybe 7% [/QUOTE]
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