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The new 5.0 4 valve ford will force us to uprgade our 99-01 powerplants!
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<blockquote data-quote="mustangmanjeff" data-source="post: 9291356" data-attributes="member: 29948"><p></p><p></p><p>Not as much as they use to maybe from 1993-2002 because of the lt1 and ls1 but sorry to break the news to you , the 2003-2004 cobra supercharged saleens supercharged roush,shelbys and the new 2011 gt all makes 365-600hp just as much horsepower as any chevy, only the z06 and zr1 dominate ford, but thats with a $50-$100k price tag and because power to weight, the new camaro is a tank and the foxbody 5.0 outpowered the chevys irocz / z28fbodys of the 1980-1992 they only made 140-230hp and weighed more. Since 2002-2003 that has all changed ford just needs to make the mustang lighter like a corvette,they got the price tag cheaper then the chevy boys and power now under control they just need to make them light again. Look @ the numbers below since 2002-2003 ford has stepped it up alot I mean yes from 1993-2002 chevy shit all over fords cars (maily because people like to compare only the mustang v6 or gt or sometimes cobra to ss camaro or vette, now compare the cobra R or newer cobras shelbys or any saleen s/c and the mustang is faster) , and this isnt 1992-2002 anymore numbers below show how well ford does now fords lineupe is now 300-700hp anywhere from base v6 or gt ,shelby gt500, gt500 supersnake,saleen roush. and chevys lineup is also 300-638hp now, just the vette dominates because power to weight, the mustang now will shit all over the heavy slowmaro <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p> just look below for the numbers from 1993+ for chevy vs ford since 2002-2003 to now ford is right there with chevys #'s</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><u>FORD:</u></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1985-1995</p><p>5.0 302 n/a</p><p><strong>175-245hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1993-1995</p><p>5.0 liter n/a</p><p>GT=<strong>205,215,225hp</strong></p><p>cobra/cobra R=<strong>235,240,245hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1995cobra R</p><p>5.8 liter n/a</p><p><strong>300hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1994-1998</p><p>saleen s-351</p><p>5.8 n/a</p><p><strong>300-380hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1994-1998 s-351s/c</p><p>5.8 s/c</p><p><strong>495hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1996-1998 GT </p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p>GT= <strong>215HP,225HP</strong></p><p></p><p>1996-1998 cobra</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p><strong>305hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1999-2004</p><p>Mustang GT</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p><strong>260hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2001 bullit </p><p>mustang (gt)</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p>=<strong>265-275hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2000 cobra R</p><p>5.4 n/a</p><p><strong>385hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1999-2001</p><p>cobra</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p><strong>320hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>2003-2004</p><p>mach 1</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p><strong>305hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2003-2004 </p><p>saleen</p><p>4.6 s/c</p><p><strong>375hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2003-2004 cobra</p><p>4.6 s/c</p><p><strong>390hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2005+</p><p>ford GT</p><p>5.4 s/c</p><p><strong>550hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2005-2010 GT</p><p>4.6 n/a</p><p><strong>300-325hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2010 mustang gt 5.0</p><p>base v8 car ($28,000-$30k)</p><p><strong>412 hp </strong></p><p>5.0 liters</p><p>3500-3600lbs</p><p></p><p></p><p>2007-2010</p><p>shelby mustang gt500</p><p>5.4 s/c</p><p><strong>500-540hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>2008-2010</p><p>shelby gt500 super snake</p><p>5.4 s/c</p><p><strong>625-725hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Chevy/pontiac/gm:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1980-1992</p><p>camaro z28/pontiac/irocz</p><p>5.0 305 tpi</p><p><strong>140-175hp</strong></p><p></p><p>5.7 liter </p><p><strong>175-230hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1993-1997 </p><p>lt1 camaros/pontiac firebird/transam</p><p>z28/ss</p><p>5.7 liters</p><p><strong>275hp-285hp</strong></p><p></p><p>1998-2002 ls1 camaro z28/ss/pontiac firebird transam</p><p>5.7 liters</p><p><strong>305hp-345hp </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>1997-2004 corvette c5/z06</p><p>5.7 liter ls1/ls6</p><p>ls1 5.7 liter= <strong>345hp,350hp </strong></p><p>5.7 liter ls6 z06= <strong>385hp,405hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2005+</p><p>chevy corvette</p><p>ls2 / ls3</p><p></p><p>6.0 liter or 6.2 liter</p><p></p><p>6.0 ls2= <strong>400hp</strong></p><p>6.2 ls3= <strong>430,436hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>2010+</p><p>camaro ss v8 </p><p>6.2 liter</p><p><strong>426hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>2005 pontiac gto</p><p>5.7 liter ls1 or ls2</p><p><strong>350hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2006</p><p>ls2 gto </p><p>6.0 liters </p><p><strong>400hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2009+</p><p>ls3 vette</p><p>6.2 liters</p><p><strong>430-436hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2006+</p><p>ls7 vette</p><p>7.0 liter</p><p><strong>505hp</strong></p><p></p><p>2009+</p><p>zr1 vette</p><p>6.2 s/c</p><p><strong>636hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>DODGE:</strong></p><p></p><p>dodge hemi 5.7 or 6.1 liter</p><p></p><p>hemi charger r/t </p><p></p><p>5.7 liter </p><p><strong>340hp,368hp</strong></p><p></p><p>charger srt8 </p><p>6.1 liter</p><p><strong>425hp</strong></p><p></p><p>challenger R/T</p><p>5.7 liter hemi </p><p><strong>376hp</strong></p><p></p><p>challenger srt8</p><p>6.1 liter</p><p><strong>426hp</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Sum it up:</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>FORD:</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>5.0 302 pushrod,5.8pushrod, 5.8 pushrod s/c 4.6 mod,4.6 s/c mod 5.4 mod, 5.4 s/c mod=</strong></p><p><strong>Horsepower anywhere from of 175-725hp</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>chevy:</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>5.0 305,5.7 lt1,5.7ls1,5.7 ls6,6.0 ls2,6.2 ls3,7.0ls7,6.2 s/c ls9=</strong></p><p><strong>Horsepower anywhere from 175hp-638hp</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>The numbers are actually pretty close because ford is smart and has many more models in there lineup to choose from which is why mustangs outsell chevy corvettes and camaros <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mustangmanjeff, post: 9291356, member: 29948"] [B][/B] Not as much as they use to maybe from 1993-2002 because of the lt1 and ls1 but sorry to break the news to you , the 2003-2004 cobra supercharged saleens supercharged roush,shelbys and the new 2011 gt all makes 365-600hp just as much horsepower as any chevy, only the z06 and zr1 dominate ford, but thats with a $50-$100k price tag and because power to weight, the new camaro is a tank and the foxbody 5.0 outpowered the chevys irocz / z28fbodys of the 1980-1992 they only made 140-230hp and weighed more. Since 2002-2003 that has all changed ford just needs to make the mustang lighter like a corvette,they got the price tag cheaper then the chevy boys and power now under control they just need to make them light again. Look @ the numbers below since 2002-2003 ford has stepped it up alot I mean yes from 1993-2002 chevy shit all over fords cars (maily because people like to compare only the mustang v6 or gt or sometimes cobra to ss camaro or vette, now compare the cobra R or newer cobras shelbys or any saleen s/c and the mustang is faster) , and this isnt 1992-2002 anymore numbers below show how well ford does now fords lineupe is now 300-700hp anywhere from base v6 or gt ,shelby gt500, gt500 supersnake,saleen roush. and chevys lineup is also 300-638hp now, just the vette dominates because power to weight, the mustang now will shit all over the heavy slowmaro ;) just look below for the numbers from 1993+ for chevy vs ford since 2002-2003 to now ford is right there with chevys #'s [B][U]FORD:[/U][/B] 1985-1995 5.0 302 n/a [B]175-245hp[/B] 1993-1995 5.0 liter n/a GT=[B]205,215,225hp[/B] cobra/cobra R=[B]235,240,245hp[/B] 1995cobra R 5.8 liter n/a [B]300hp[/B] 1994-1998 saleen s-351 5.8 n/a [B]300-380hp[/B] 1994-1998 s-351s/c 5.8 s/c [B]495hp[/B] 1996-1998 GT 4.6 n/a GT= [B]215HP,225HP[/B] 1996-1998 cobra 4.6 n/a [B]305hp[/B] 1999-2004 Mustang GT 4.6 n/a [B]260hp[/B] 2001 bullit mustang (gt) 4.6 n/a =[B]265-275hp[/B] 2000 cobra R 5.4 n/a [B]385hp[/B] 1999-2001 cobra 4.6 n/a [B]320hp[/B] 2003-2004 mach 1 4.6 n/a [B]305hp[/B] 2003-2004 saleen 4.6 s/c [B]375hp[/B] 2003-2004 cobra 4.6 s/c [B]390hp[/B] 2005+ ford GT 5.4 s/c [B]550hp[/B] 2005-2010 GT 4.6 n/a [B]300-325hp[/B] 2010 mustang gt 5.0 base v8 car ($28,000-$30k) [B]412 hp [/B] 5.0 liters 3500-3600lbs 2007-2010 shelby mustang gt500 5.4 s/c [B]500-540hp[/B] 2008-2010 shelby gt500 super snake 5.4 s/c [B]625-725hp[/B] [B]Chevy/pontiac/gm:[/B] 1980-1992 camaro z28/pontiac/irocz 5.0 305 tpi [B]140-175hp[/B] 5.7 liter [B]175-230hp[/B] 1993-1997 lt1 camaros/pontiac firebird/transam z28/ss 5.7 liters [B]275hp-285hp[/B] 1998-2002 ls1 camaro z28/ss/pontiac firebird transam 5.7 liters [B]305hp-345hp [/B] 1997-2004 corvette c5/z06 5.7 liter ls1/ls6 ls1 5.7 liter= [B]345hp,350hp [/B] 5.7 liter ls6 z06= [B]385hp,405hp[/B] 2005+ chevy corvette ls2 / ls3 6.0 liter or 6.2 liter 6.0 ls2= [B]400hp[/B] 6.2 ls3= [B]430,436hp[/B] 2010+ camaro ss v8 6.2 liter [B]426hp[/B] 2005 pontiac gto 5.7 liter ls1 or ls2 [B]350hp[/B] 2006 ls2 gto 6.0 liters [B]400hp[/B] 2009+ ls3 vette 6.2 liters [B]430-436hp[/B] 2006+ ls7 vette 7.0 liter [B]505hp[/B] 2009+ zr1 vette 6.2 s/c [B]636hp[/B] [B]DODGE:[/B] dodge hemi 5.7 or 6.1 liter hemi charger r/t 5.7 liter [B]340hp,368hp[/B] charger srt8 6.1 liter [B]425hp[/B] challenger R/T 5.7 liter hemi [B]376hp[/B] challenger srt8 6.1 liter [B]426hp[/B] [B]Sum it up:[/B] [B]FORD:[/B] [B]5.0 302 pushrod,5.8pushrod, 5.8 pushrod s/c 4.6 mod,4.6 s/c mod 5.4 mod, 5.4 s/c mod=[/B] [B]Horsepower anywhere from of 175-725hp[/B] [B]chevy:[/B] [B]5.0 305,5.7 lt1,5.7ls1,5.7 ls6,6.0 ls2,6.2 ls3,7.0ls7,6.2 s/c ls9=[/B] [B]Horsepower anywhere from 175hp-638hp[/B] The numbers are actually pretty close because ford is smart and has many more models in there lineup to choose from which is why mustangs outsell chevy corvettes and camaros ;) [/QUOTE]
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