They are. 98 was the last year of the teksid.
Terminator or Mach 1
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I currently own both an 03 Mach 1 and an 03 Terminator.
I love them both and they each have unique characteristics.
The Mach has great appeal, but need more go-fast under the hood.
I rectified this by swapping in a complete low-mile 04 terminator drivetrain (engine, T56, and IRS) with a Kennebell 2.6 on E85.
Now it makes around 700rwhp and runs as good as it looks.
The Terminator has the standard VMP supercharger upgrade on E85 making over 700rwhp and so far has run in the 10's with the IRS before snapping the 1/2 shaft.
Ryan
I love them both and they each have unique characteristics.
The Mach has great appeal, but need more go-fast under the hood.
I rectified this by swapping in a complete low-mile 04 terminator drivetrain (engine, T56, and IRS) with a Kennebell 2.6 on E85.
Now it makes around 700rwhp and runs as good as it looks.
The Terminator has the standard VMP supercharger upgrade on E85 making over 700rwhp and so far has run in the 10's with the IRS before snapping the 1/2 shaft.
Ryan
There's some misinformation in here. The Cobra's have forged cranks. Auto Mach's do not. The "revised" intake cams are the same cam used in every other 4v car and worse than the 99-01 Cams. Their power comes from the better heads/intake (slightly) helping their power band and their solid rear.
Secondly, the teksid made it into several 99 Cobra motors but was changed mid year to the first "WAP" block not to be confused with the Nemak "WAP" block used in 3v's and aluminators.
I'm the original owner of my 01 and it has a Teksid block. Many do. Not sure about the Machs.
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I had a very early 01, like #300 something, it had a Teskid too. I am guessing Ford used up what they had left. I dropped that car like a hot potato when the 03 cobras showed up.
didn't 99 production get cut short do to the hp debacle? Thinking it was simply that, leftover teskids.
Several 01 Cobra's actually have shortblocks that were sourced in 99. Thus why they stopped making the teksid in 99 but a few 01's have them. The 99 was cut short due to the HP issue. Leftover parts were used on the early 2001's.
Yup you are right. Thats why there wasnt a 2000 cobra and just a cobra R. Doing some research in 99(last year of production of teskid blocks)ford made some changes to the last run of teskid blocks which made them slightly different than pre 99 blocks. Not sure how many were made before the WAP started production.
Teskid/ WAP. show me WAP failures percentages vs Teskid. Blocks are seldom the issue in any case.
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Too many "termis" in this paragraph. Ban....
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I agree the WAP gets a bad WRAP (haahahaha). But the teksid is clearly a stronger block. The failures don't typically occur until the 1000+ level which is still incredibly impressive for a stock block. The Nemak WAP is stronger than the WAP, but it still has some cylinder strength issues above 1krwhp as well. The teksid still remains the standard for strength in a stock block though it matters very little to 99.9 percent of cars being built as they don't need the added strength.
Up until a few years ago, When you could still find 50-70k mile Terminators regularly for $16-18k, I'd say Terminator any day of the week and twice on sunday and i still say that but Terminators have hit a patch now where all the nice ones are being kept/stored away and all the beaters are beating tossed around with crazy prices.
Meanwhile you can find nice low mileage unmolested Mach 1's for $10k-$12k, Its starting to be a solid option from a buyers standpoint.
Meanwhile you can find nice low mileage unmolested Mach 1's for $10k-$12k, Its starting to be a solid option from a buyers standpoint.
Where are these low mile unmolested Mach 1's for 10-12k? I'm not finding any.
The Mach 1 isn't a Terminator, it's not a Shelby, but IMO it does a fine job being what it is, a Mach 1.. And I really like mine.
Fits like a glove. It's also my slowest car. But the fun to drive factor? It ranks in the top.
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I was almost about to buy one of those kits before I got the terminator. I got a little depressed that where that kit would max my mach 1 would be about where a terminator was just getting started. Glad I still have both cars
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Though these cars are very different in base performance, they have similar potential with difference in price that can be put towards mods if you’re building both. I still chose buying a cobra over building my mach 1 since the cobra would be worth more when all was said and done
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