St. Louis the most dangerous US City!

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ST. LOUIS - A surge in violence made St. Louis the most dangerous city in the country, leading a trend of violent crimes rising much faster in the Midwest than in the rest of nation, according to an annual list.

The city has long fared poorly in the rankings of the safest and most dangerous American cities compiled by Morgan Quitno Press. Violent crime surged nearly 20 percent in St. Louis from 2004 to last year, when the rate of such crimes rose most dramatically in the Midwest, according to FBI figures released in June.

"It's just sad the way this city is," resident Sam Dawson said. "On the news you hear killings, someone's been shot."

The ranking, being released Monday, came as the city was still celebrating Friday's World Series victory at the new Busch Stadium. St. Louis has been spending millions of dollars on urban renewal even as the crime rate climbs.

Mayor Francis Slay did not return calls to his office seeking comment Sunday.

Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno Press, a private research and publishing company specializing in state and city reference books, said he was not surprised to see St. Louis top the list, since it has been among the 10 most dangerous cities for years.

The study looks at crime only within St. Louis city limits, with a population of about 330,000, Morgan said. It doesn't take into account the suburbs in St. Louis County, which has roughly 980,000 residents.

Visiting St. Louis on Thursday, FBI director Robert Mueller said it was too early to tell why some types of crime were rising faster in the Midwest.

Mueller said the FBI is working harder to form partnerships with police departments to launch programs like St. Louis' Safe Streets task force, which focuses police efforts on problematic neighborhoods.

The safest city in 2005 was Brick, N.J., with a population about 78,000, followed by Amherst, N.Y., and Mission Viejo, Calif. The second most dangerous city was Detroit, followed by Flint, Mich., and Compton, Calif.

The bad news for St. Louis was good for Camden, N.J., which in 2005 was named the most dangerous city for the second year in a row.

Camden Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said Sunday she was thrilled to learn that her city no longer topped the most-dangerous list.

"You made my day!" said Faison, who has served since 2000. "There's a new hope and a new spirit."

Cities are ranked based on more than just their crime rate, Morgan said. Individual crimes such as rape or burglary are measured separately, compared to national averages and then compiled to give a city its ranking. Crimes are weighted based on their level of danger.

The national FBI figures released in June showed the murder rate in St. Louis jumped 16 percent from 2004 to 2005, compared with 4.8 percent nationally. The overall violent crime rate increased nearly 20 percent, compared with 2.5 percent nationally.

While crime increased in all regions last year, the 5.7 percent rise in the 12 Midwestern states was at least three times higher than any other region, according to the FBI.
 

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I wouldn't live in St. Louis if you paid me. Just outside the city and parts like Forest Park & the Central West End are very nice...but take a stroll downtown after sundown and see how many undesirable characters follow you around.

My wife is from there, and we were married in St. Louis. It used to be a nice place I'm sure. But like so many rust-belt cities it has declined and currently struggles to find its place. Cleveland, Millwaukee, Detroit, Evansville, Indy, Youngstown, Flint...they all struggle with this same problem. What do we do when the big corporations pull out and home values crash and the school system collapses?

What usually happens is they put a few more cops on the street, dress up the downtown with banners and try to encourage more people to come there as a 'tourist destination'. Who wants to visit a city where you're 50% more likely to have something BAD happen to you?
 
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it needs to be noted that it is within city limits which is population 330,000 or so. it doesnt take into account the other 981,000 people who live outside the city but still in st. louis.
 

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cobraracer46 said:
East Saint Louis is one of the biggest shit holes I have ever seen. The Median home selling price in East Saint louis is a whopping $48000.


That kind of made me laugh. How do you really feel?!
 

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Funny how the article in the New York Post that I just read said Camden was the still the #1 most dangerous city. wtf lying journalists.
 

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cobraracer46 said:
East Saint Louis is one of the biggest shit holes I have ever seen. The Median home selling price in East Saint louis is a whopping $48000.

East St. Louis is in Illinois and is a much different city than St. Louis other than they are close together and people sometimes think they are the same.

Regardless.... There are plenty of bad neigborhoods in St.Louis. Just take a drive just east of kingshighway on Delmar and make a left on the next street and drive around the neighborhoods. If you are doing it after 6 keep your eyes on the rooftops and cars blocking the streets in the distance.


However. I have seen more violance and iffy situations where I was more uncomfortable in other places. From what I have experianced
places in L.A and South Miami are just as bad if not worse in areas as well imo.

Oh yeah.... Congrats St. Louis Cardinals
 
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i8u said:
East St. Louis is in Illinois and is a much different city than St. Louis other than they are close together and people sometimes think they are the same.

Regardless.... There are plenty of bad neigborhoods in St.Louis. Just take a drive just east of kingshighway on Delmar and make a left on the next street and drive around the neighborhoods. If you are doing it after 6 keep your eyes on the rooftops and cars blocking the streets in the distance.


However. I have seen more violance and iffy situations where I was more uncomfortable in other places. From what I have experianced
places in L.A and South Miami are just as bad if not worse in areas as well imo.

Oh yeah.... Congrats St. Louis Cardinals



This summer I went to St. Louis to do some consrtuction work in that area and we stayed right off Kingshighway, I wondered why the place we stayed was fenced in and we had armed security.
 

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I absolutely never trust these ****ing rankings. I have lived in Detroit for most of my 23 years, and never once was I afraid to walk down the street. That's not to say that we don't have our fair share of problems, but it's just about being smart; minding your business is always the best way to avoid trouble.
I'm sure that St. Louis is the same way being that it's another midwestern city. As for Compton, I can't say anything about it.
 

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i8u said:
East St. Louis is in Illinois and is a much different city than St. Louis other than they are close together and people sometimes think they are the same.

Regardless.... There are plenty of bad neigborhoods in St.Louis. Just take a drive just east of kingshighway on Delmar and make a left on the next street and drive around the neighborhoods. If you are doing it after 6 keep your eyes on the rooftops and cars blocking the streets in the distance.


However. I have seen more violance and iffy situations where I was more uncomfortable in other places. From what I have experianced
places in L.A and South Miami are just as bad if not worse in areas as well imo.

Oh yeah.... Congrats St. Louis Cardinals
 

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cobraracer46 said:
East Saint Louis is one of the biggest shit holes I have ever seen. The Median home selling price in East Saint louis is a whopping $48000.
thats the damn turth...you couldt pay me to ride through there.
 

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PhotonSabreX said:
I absolutely never trust these ****ing rankings. I have lived in Detroit for most of my 23 years, and never once was I afraid to walk down the street. That's not to say that we don't have our fair share of problems, but it's just about being smart; minding your business is always the best way to avoid trouble.
I'm sure that St. Louis is the same way being that it's another midwestern city. As for Compton, I can't say anything about it.

I'm totally with you on this. I think these type of surveys are BS. I have lived in St. Louis all my life and never had any problems. Every large metro area has place(s) you stay away from. In St. Louis it is North City. The county surrounding St. Louis (where most people live is generally very, very safe (with a couple of pockets). People come up to me all the time who came from other parts of the US telling me how much they like St. Louis, want to raise their kids here, how nice people are, and how SAFE it is. Don't believe all this baloney you hear. Interesting how this survey comes out the day after the Cards win the Series.....hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :shrug:
 
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cobraracer46 said:
East Saint Louis is one of the biggest shit holes I have ever seen. The Median home selling price in East Saint louis is a whopping $48000.


You should see the entire city of Camden. Drove through there last year, got lost in fact. It looks like downtown Baghdad weeks after the US took the city.
 

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