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Road and Track. GTR vs Z06 vs 997
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<blockquote data-quote="fiveo'cobra" data-source="post: 6388563" data-attributes="member: 23893"><p>Betting people a grand on a race you know you're going to win isn't going to get anything accomplished. This entire time i've been saying that the GT-R is not built to compete on such "high speed" tracks you speak of. No one is doubting that. It is a 190mph car, but it is 3900 pounds and it has a 3.8 TT V6. Anyone in their right mind would be stupid to take up a $1000 bet saying it would beat a 5.4 S/C'ed FGT or any 600+whp domestic on a highway where speeds stay at or above 150mph. </p><p></p><p>The point of this thread in the first place was to compare it against its rivals on an actual road course with cars that were designed around road racing (btw I think your/our main confusion is from the term road racing which certainly does NOT include high speed events that hold little to no merit in the road racing motorsports community). </p><p></p><p>What makes the GT-R so competitive on a road course is its far advanced technology from say a Z06 or 997 as the thread says. It was built to run very fast lap times around pretty much any road course, where (you should know Fred) average speed is FAR less important than lap time. If you take ANY car out of its element its going to lose man. Its like taking Michael Jordon, putting him on the soccer field with David Beckham and saying Jordan sucks in comparison. Thats not how it works. If you took your FGT out of its element and put it on ice where the awd GT-R is better, you could argue a biased argument. That is why i'm saying there is no point comparing road courses vs. high speed events with the GT-R. It simply doesn't make any sense. So I think you strayed off topic and began arguing over a subject (high speed events) that we'd all agree on regarding average speeds, but that was never the point. </p><p></p><p>Whether or not there are "ricer-burner" nutswingers on this thread I don't know. But I do know that I am a realist. I've been around plenty of road courses, instructed dozens of drivers (including viper owners), and done enough racing to know a fast car around a track when I see one. The GT-R is definately one of them. Certainly you can appreciate that fact. </p><p></p><p>I'm going to go ahead and edit out my other bullshit, but one day if I ever decide to own an R35, i'll make sure to look you up with $1000 in my pocket.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fiveo'cobra, post: 6388563, member: 23893"] Betting people a grand on a race you know you're going to win isn't going to get anything accomplished. This entire time i've been saying that the GT-R is not built to compete on such "high speed" tracks you speak of. No one is doubting that. It is a 190mph car, but it is 3900 pounds and it has a 3.8 TT V6. Anyone in their right mind would be stupid to take up a $1000 bet saying it would beat a 5.4 S/C'ed FGT or any 600+whp domestic on a highway where speeds stay at or above 150mph. The point of this thread in the first place was to compare it against its rivals on an actual road course with cars that were designed around road racing (btw I think your/our main confusion is from the term road racing which certainly does NOT include high speed events that hold little to no merit in the road racing motorsports community). What makes the GT-R so competitive on a road course is its far advanced technology from say a Z06 or 997 as the thread says. It was built to run very fast lap times around pretty much any road course, where (you should know Fred) average speed is FAR less important than lap time. If you take ANY car out of its element its going to lose man. Its like taking Michael Jordon, putting him on the soccer field with David Beckham and saying Jordan sucks in comparison. Thats not how it works. If you took your FGT out of its element and put it on ice where the awd GT-R is better, you could argue a biased argument. That is why i'm saying there is no point comparing road courses vs. high speed events with the GT-R. It simply doesn't make any sense. So I think you strayed off topic and began arguing over a subject (high speed events) that we'd all agree on regarding average speeds, but that was never the point. Whether or not there are "ricer-burner" nutswingers on this thread I don't know. But I do know that I am a realist. I've been around plenty of road courses, instructed dozens of drivers (including viper owners), and done enough racing to know a fast car around a track when I see one. The GT-R is definately one of them. Certainly you can appreciate that fact. I'm going to go ahead and edit out my other bullshit, but one day if I ever decide to own an R35, i'll make sure to look you up with $1000 in my pocket. [/QUOTE]
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