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<blockquote data-quote="1995COBRA-R" data-source="post: 12620862" data-attributes="member: 9515"><p>Tom,</p><p>Not me. :-D I'll make the rules.</p><p></p><p>I'd make them so anyone with a small budget could participate. One reason that some vintage racing events have experienced lower car counts is that the cost is just too high.</p><p></p><p>One example is the 1965-1966 Mustang. SVRA has all of these cars in two classes (AS -rear back seat; and BP -no back seat). You can call Cobra Automotive, and they'll build you a legal engine and transmission for $75,000+. If you add another $50,000+ for the rest of the car, you may be able to run up-front. Don't ask about the annual cost of supporting this car.</p><p></p><p>I've talked to certain SVRA people-in-charge in the past. I've asked them to add more classes to offer a guy on a budget a chance of glory in winning a $10 trophy? HSR does it. They flat refused my idea so you can guess how many entry fees that I've sent them since then. ;-)</p><p></p><p>I just checked the SVRA website:</p><p><a href="http://www.svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Entry-Form.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Entry-Form.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>They are having the Spring Sebring Vintage Classic in March. The entry fee is $550 (if you buy a $195 license). The enduro is $250, and test day (optional) is $275. You'd think that they would have room here for a $10 trophy? :shrug:</p><p></p><p><strong>My rules for former IMSA, Speedvision, Motorola, GAC cars: (Safety requirements as per those regulations)</strong></p><p></p><p>We will never change the rules during the year. It's only fair to adjust them once a year. The weight restrictions are as published before (see above). The RPM limits of each car/class may be limited in the future (don't try cheating by spending $45,000 on an engine). No wings.</p><p></p><p>Group 1. Stock engine, stock transmission, stock brakes, stock wheels, stock suspension, stock interior (you can delete the passenger seat), stock computer. This is for guys that buy a stock 1995 GT and weld in a rollbar. You can't even delete the A/C, but it doesn't have to work. Glass in all four windows.</p><p></p><p>Group 2. Firehawk. This is as per Firehawk rules. 5.0L maximum (stock c.i. for others) with a stock transmission (we know that guys can put dog-ring gears in a stock case so don't try it). You can gut the interior. 16" X 8" wheels with any brakes that will fit. You can delete the side windows but keep the front and rear glass.</p><p></p><p>Group 3. Any car based on IMSA Endur., Speedvision, or Motorola Cup rules. The 5.8L will start here. You are going to have to live with the stock Cobra brakes. A 17" wheel is OK. F&R glass windows. I am going with a 7000 RPM limit here. Don't even consider a dry sump engine. No carbon fiber.</p><p></p><p>Group 4. Grand-Am Cup. You can upgrade to better brakes (Alcon) and those "special' strut/shocks packages of GAC. No carbon fiber or no plastic windows. This class (as is group 3) is to preserve and keep these old race cars on the track.</p><p></p><p>Notice: Every car that passes tech and finishes one session will be awarded a special vintage trophy. It will name the track and the year of participation. </p><p></p><p>The owner of the fastest car must sponsor (i.e., you pay for the beer) of the Motorola/Grand-Am Cup party during the weekend.</p><p></p><p>:read: :-D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1995COBRA-R, post: 12620862, member: 9515"] Tom, Not me. :-D I'll make the rules. I'd make them so anyone with a small budget could participate. One reason that some vintage racing events have experienced lower car counts is that the cost is just too high. One example is the 1965-1966 Mustang. SVRA has all of these cars in two classes (AS -rear back seat; and BP -no back seat). You can call Cobra Automotive, and they'll build you a legal engine and transmission for $75,000+. If you add another $50,000+ for the rest of the car, you may be able to run up-front. Don't ask about the annual cost of supporting this car. I've talked to certain SVRA people-in-charge in the past. I've asked them to add more classes to offer a guy on a budget a chance of glory in winning a $10 trophy? HSR does it. They flat refused my idea so you can guess how many entry fees that I've sent them since then. ;-) I just checked the SVRA website: [URL="http://www.svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Entry-Form.pdf"]http://www.svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Entry-Form.pdf[/URL] They are having the Spring Sebring Vintage Classic in March. The entry fee is $550 (if you buy a $195 license). The enduro is $250, and test day (optional) is $275. You'd think that they would have room here for a $10 trophy? :shrug: [B]My rules for former IMSA, Speedvision, Motorola, GAC cars: (Safety requirements as per those regulations)[/B] We will never change the rules during the year. It's only fair to adjust them once a year. The weight restrictions are as published before (see above). The RPM limits of each car/class may be limited in the future (don't try cheating by spending $45,000 on an engine). No wings. Group 1. Stock engine, stock transmission, stock brakes, stock wheels, stock suspension, stock interior (you can delete the passenger seat), stock computer. This is for guys that buy a stock 1995 GT and weld in a rollbar. You can't even delete the A/C, but it doesn't have to work. Glass in all four windows. Group 2. Firehawk. This is as per Firehawk rules. 5.0L maximum (stock c.i. for others) with a stock transmission (we know that guys can put dog-ring gears in a stock case so don't try it). You can gut the interior. 16" X 8" wheels with any brakes that will fit. You can delete the side windows but keep the front and rear glass. Group 3. Any car based on IMSA Endur., Speedvision, or Motorola Cup rules. The 5.8L will start here. You are going to have to live with the stock Cobra brakes. A 17" wheel is OK. F&R glass windows. I am going with a 7000 RPM limit here. Don't even consider a dry sump engine. No carbon fiber. Group 4. Grand-Am Cup. You can upgrade to better brakes (Alcon) and those "special' strut/shocks packages of GAC. No carbon fiber or no plastic windows. This class (as is group 3) is to preserve and keep these old race cars on the track. Notice: Every car that passes tech and finishes one session will be awarded a special vintage trophy. It will name the track and the year of participation. The owner of the fastest car must sponsor (i.e., you pay for the beer) of the Motorola/Grand-Am Cup party during the weekend. :read: :-D [/QUOTE]
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