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<blockquote data-quote="BillyGman" data-source="post: 2277867" data-attributes="member: 19962"><p>I'm sorry if this will distract from the main topic here, but there was just so many veiwpoints that you've shared all in your first post of this thread, that it just begs for replies, so here's mine concerning the part of your post in the quote above.......</p><p></p><p> My viewpoint is,....... how can you have too much low-end power? As for me, as heavy as Marauders are, give my heavy car all the low-end power possible, and I'll take care of the traction issue (if there really is one) in one way or another. It's better to have more than enough low-end power than can be used, than to have not enough. With the Nitto drag radials, 4.56 gears, and a 3,000 RPM stall speed, my 4,200 LB tank of a Marauder runs consistent 1.6 second 60' times at the dragstrip with the Trilogy(roots)supercharger on 93 octane gas, and I'm certainly not any pro racer. But I don't load up the torque converter at the line either. I just hit the go pedal, and the tires grab as long as I take the air pressure down to 17-22 PSI. and I do a burnout beforehand into second gear(first gear won't get the tires heated up enough).</p><p></p><p> And on the street when the traffic light turns green, I just half pedal it out of the hole for about the first 20-25 feet, the tires grab good, and the car still takes off a whole lot quicker than it did before it was supercharged, and then while it's still in first gear, I put it to the floor, and I get great traction. it just takes a little experimentation, and skill, but it's a good problem to have (if it really IS one for you) because atleast your car has the torque to spin the tires like that IF you want it to. But the real advantage on the street is the gobs of midrange torque that go with that. All of which can be used even at full throttle. </p><p></p><p> My comments are in no way meant to knock centrifugal superchargers in any way, so please let's not get into that. They're just intended to address this misconception of having "too much" Low-end torque. Bottom line is, if you have more than you can use at full throttle on the street, that isn't neccessarily bad, since all that's required is that you learn just how much throttle you can use off the line, and still stay hooked up with the tires you're using, as well as just how far off the line you have to get the car traveling before you can give it full throttle.</p><p></p><p> And as you can see by others' posts, you'll still get some wheelspin off the line on the street with the procharger set-up too at full throttle. So it's all about learning how to use that power. And it's so easy with an automatic transmission to learn that.BTW, with the Trilogy kit the way it comes and the tune that it comes with, you don't ever get any pinging or spark knock at ANY RPM, low or otherwise. It sounds like you have a tuning issue since you've altered the kit (or the person you've bought it from did). Aren't you the one who bought the Trilogy kit from Bill Bowker who previously altered it, and had it on his Marauder?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BillyGman, post: 2277867, member: 19962"] I'm sorry if this will distract from the main topic here, but there was just so many veiwpoints that you've shared all in your first post of this thread, that it just begs for replies, so here's mine concerning the part of your post in the quote above....... My viewpoint is,....... how can you have too much low-end power? As for me, as heavy as Marauders are, give my heavy car all the low-end power possible, and I'll take care of the traction issue (if there really is one) in one way or another. It's better to have more than enough low-end power than can be used, than to have not enough. With the Nitto drag radials, 4.56 gears, and a 3,000 RPM stall speed, my 4,200 LB tank of a Marauder runs consistent 1.6 second 60' times at the dragstrip with the Trilogy(roots)supercharger on 93 octane gas, and I'm certainly not any pro racer. But I don't load up the torque converter at the line either. I just hit the go pedal, and the tires grab as long as I take the air pressure down to 17-22 PSI. and I do a burnout beforehand into second gear(first gear won't get the tires heated up enough). And on the street when the traffic light turns green, I just half pedal it out of the hole for about the first 20-25 feet, the tires grab good, and the car still takes off a whole lot quicker than it did before it was supercharged, and then while it's still in first gear, I put it to the floor, and I get great traction. it just takes a little experimentation, and skill, but it's a good problem to have (if it really IS one for you) because atleast your car has the torque to spin the tires like that IF you want it to. But the real advantage on the street is the gobs of midrange torque that go with that. All of which can be used even at full throttle. My comments are in no way meant to knock centrifugal superchargers in any way, so please let's not get into that. They're just intended to address this misconception of having "too much" Low-end torque. Bottom line is, if you have more than you can use at full throttle on the street, that isn't neccessarily bad, since all that's required is that you learn just how much throttle you can use off the line, and still stay hooked up with the tires you're using, as well as just how far off the line you have to get the car traveling before you can give it full throttle. And as you can see by others' posts, you'll still get some wheelspin off the line on the street with the procharger set-up too at full throttle. So it's all about learning how to use that power. And it's so easy with an automatic transmission to learn that.BTW, with the Trilogy kit the way it comes and the tune that it comes with, you don't ever get any pinging or spark knock at ANY RPM, low or otherwise. It sounds like you have a tuning issue since you've altered the kit (or the person you've bought it from did). Aren't you the one who bought the Trilogy kit from Bill Bowker who previously altered it, and had it on his Marauder? [/QUOTE]
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