ChaosTheory
Banned
Preface: I accept a bit of fault in this I guess since I was a bit careless by assuming he would PUT INSURANCE ON A $2000 PACKAGE....!? Who wouldn't? As most of us would, I know I would!
Last month I started looking for Whipples or KBs online. I found an older 2.3L Whipple being sold by *removed for now* on SVTP for a decent price, and talked to him thru PM’s and we came to an agreement on price ($2000 plus shipping costs). I sent him a certified check via Registered mail. He got it a few days later and told me he sent out the blower, and sent me a tracking number via PM. It showed up in a reasonable amount of time, and I opened the package when I got home from work on Thursday, (2-12-09). It was packaged well, and in the original Whipple box and packing materials. This is where the problems started.
I opened the box and took it out and placed it on my workbench to clean it up. One thing I noticed was that the inlet and outlet of the blower were not covered or taped at all. This was annoying, but not really a big deal to me, although in my eyes it did show neglect. I got it cleaned up and a couple pieces of trash out of the inlet and was about to put it on when I noticed that something wasn’t right about the pulley. I started playing with it more and more and realized that it was damaged pretty badly. I looked at the box, and sure enough it was damaged as well. It looked as if the box had been dropped on the snout end of the blower, to where the full weight of the blower was on the pulley when it impacted the ground. The box had a hole in it where the pulley had poked through it a bit from the impact.
I decided to look at it more the next day so I immediately called UPS and placed a claim for the damaged goods. They told me to box it up and they would pick it up the next day to inspect it. I ended up calling them back and telling them that I wasn’t going to let them take the blower since I didn’t want to have to wait forever to get some kind of resolution. They said that was fine and that they would give me a call to schedule the inspection. It turns out that this was a good thing since it turns out also that the seller did not put insurance on the package. (Had I let them take it, they would have taken 4-6 weeks and probably only given me $100 and probably kept the blower.) I really question this; shipping out a package worth $2000 and not insuring it…
The lack of insurance is the source of all my problems right now. I have talked to UPS numerous times, from the Thursday (2-12) I received the blower, up until today (2-18), and the most they will cover is $100 plus the shipping costs. To me, this is complete crap since it’s an obvious shipping error. So, I have a blower that needs at LEAST a new snout, and a pulley and I have $100 to fix it with. I have kept the seller up to date with the situation, and I have called and spoken with the franchise owner of the UPS Store he shipped the blower out from. Really, I am sitting here screwed out of any money I have to pay to fix this thing…and to be honest; I can’t afford it right now. I have already spent a lot of money getting ready for this swap, and now for this to happen makes it much worse.
I have given the seller ample time to work with me on this issue and I have not been able to speak with him on the phone since Saturday afternoon (2-14). I have called him four times or so (my phone records show twice on 2-17, and at least once on 2-16; phone doesn’t go back any further), once a day since that day to speak with him about certain things, but I get no call returned. I finally got fed up with him not calling me back, and yesterday left him a message telling him that he needed to call me back and work this out since this was not my problem, nor my fault seeing as he didn’t put insurance on the package. I still have not received a call back, and am at my wit’s end on how to deal with this.
Seller, if you read this, all I ask from you to make this right is to buy me a new snout and pulley for the blower. I have spoken to Whipple today (and Monday-Tuesday as well), and that’s all it seems it needs. I have already bought the pulley, and I got it for a good price so there should be no issue there. I will take this as the one and only resolution to this problem.
Also, I have another question; did you pop a motor with this Whipple on top? I found very small chunks of metal in the inlet and very back of the rotors that look to be from an engine. They are certainly not from the blower; I have looked it over and can’t see where it would have come from on the blower. If this happened, why did you not tell me before I bought it? This is need-to-know information for a buyer…
So, in closing, I am sitting here with a blower that may or may not work with a snout replacement, and it might work as it is with a new pulley. So, folks, what do you think? I hope I am doing the right thing here, but I feel as if I am getting nowhere with the seller and UPS and I need to resort to posting this in the open forum. I really hate doing this, and will edit my post if he will try to help me out here, but until then, this is going to stay.
Here are the PM’s between us, in chronological order:
Me: Hey man, you got a KB for sale?
Seller: Its a whipple 2.3
Me: Price/details/etc? I am interested if we can agree on a price.
Seller: its a 2300ax with about 9k miles. Its black and has the single blade tb inlet. $2200 + shipping
Me: Will you take $2000 plus shipping? Do you need anything on trade? I will come out and say that I don't have all the money right now (have about 70%), can we work out something for you to hold it for me? We can do deposit or something...I know I WILL have the money; just not right now. Should have 100% in a week or week and a half. This is a Gen1, right?
Let's work something out!
Seller: Yes a gen 1. I may be up for cash and some kind of trade. What exactly do you have?
Me: Hey bro, I was just checking with you to see if you got my last message...I can have the money to you by the end of this week...
Can you shoot me some pics of the blower?
Seller: Yes what is your email address? Where are you located exactly? If we are not too far apart maybe we could meet up?
Me: Well, I live in South Alabama, so I doubt that we would be able to meet up...LOL
My email address is XXXXXX
Whatcha think about my offer, though? I am 100% sure I want the blower if it's in good shape (it is, right?) and if we can get right on price.
Make sure to send me some pics of the rotors too, please. Thanks man!
Seller: Pics sent let me know what you think
Me: It looks good! Is there any play in the drive at all?
Will you take $2000 plus shipping for it? I can have you the money by the end of the week if you will. I don't know what method of payment is best for this, but I will find out today at work (I work at a bank)
I can probably get a cashier's check if you are cool with that. Thanks man!
Seller: There is no play its tight. I can do 2000 plus actual shipping. A cashiers would be fine. let me know.
Me: That works for me, man. Any idea how much it will cost to ship? Do you want me to just paypal you the shipping cost after the fact? I have worked with my buyers like this before and it worked out well.
I will get the money from my bank and should be able to have it in the mail late this week. It will be a cashier's check from my bank that I work at.
If you want, you can give me a call this evening at your convenience. I also will need all your info; phone number, name, address, and etc.
Thanks!
Hunter
Seller: what is your zip there?
Me: *zip*
Seller: The package weighs 41lbs and looks to be about 83.00 to ship to you.
Me: Ok, sounds good. I will have to get some more cash from my account...LOL
I will have my money together Friday, and depending on what time I get it shipped out, it will go out Friday as well. If not Friday, I will send it from my PO on Saturday. Is this ok for you?
I guess you will ship the package out as soon as you get the cashier's check? Also, do you have a single blade TB?
How much do you want the check to be for; $2,083.00?
Thanks man, and again, I need all your info so I can send this to you.
Seller: $2083.00 will be fine. As soon as I recieve check and all is good I will ship blower to you. Thanks
Shaun XXXXXX
His address
Me: Hey man, just touching base with you...I should have the money out Friday or Saturday. We are still good, right?
Seller: yup, its a go.
Me: Just checking to see if you got the check or not. Let me know man!
Thanks!
Seller: Yes i got it yesterday and everything is cool. I will ship blower out tomorrow or sat and send you tracking asap. Thanks again!
Me: Awesome! Thanks for the deal bro! You going to ship it normal FedEx or UPS...3 day type deal?
Seller: UPS 3 day
Me: perfect. Thanks man!
Seller: Blower was shipped today. Tracking # is 1ZR031E60359794420. Pleas note there is no oil in the blower. So dont forget to fill it up before use. I always used 5w-50 syn.
Me: Hey man, I tried to call you yesterday, and left you a message. I sent you a video of the blower and the damage, and I will send you the pics I took this afternoon. I need to know if the package had insurance on it...let me know man.
Thanks
Last month I started looking for Whipples or KBs online. I found an older 2.3L Whipple being sold by *removed for now* on SVTP for a decent price, and talked to him thru PM’s and we came to an agreement on price ($2000 plus shipping costs). I sent him a certified check via Registered mail. He got it a few days later and told me he sent out the blower, and sent me a tracking number via PM. It showed up in a reasonable amount of time, and I opened the package when I got home from work on Thursday, (2-12-09). It was packaged well, and in the original Whipple box and packing materials. This is where the problems started.
I opened the box and took it out and placed it on my workbench to clean it up. One thing I noticed was that the inlet and outlet of the blower were not covered or taped at all. This was annoying, but not really a big deal to me, although in my eyes it did show neglect. I got it cleaned up and a couple pieces of trash out of the inlet and was about to put it on when I noticed that something wasn’t right about the pulley. I started playing with it more and more and realized that it was damaged pretty badly. I looked at the box, and sure enough it was damaged as well. It looked as if the box had been dropped on the snout end of the blower, to where the full weight of the blower was on the pulley when it impacted the ground. The box had a hole in it where the pulley had poked through it a bit from the impact.
I decided to look at it more the next day so I immediately called UPS and placed a claim for the damaged goods. They told me to box it up and they would pick it up the next day to inspect it. I ended up calling them back and telling them that I wasn’t going to let them take the blower since I didn’t want to have to wait forever to get some kind of resolution. They said that was fine and that they would give me a call to schedule the inspection. It turns out that this was a good thing since it turns out also that the seller did not put insurance on the package. (Had I let them take it, they would have taken 4-6 weeks and probably only given me $100 and probably kept the blower.) I really question this; shipping out a package worth $2000 and not insuring it…
The lack of insurance is the source of all my problems right now. I have talked to UPS numerous times, from the Thursday (2-12) I received the blower, up until today (2-18), and the most they will cover is $100 plus the shipping costs. To me, this is complete crap since it’s an obvious shipping error. So, I have a blower that needs at LEAST a new snout, and a pulley and I have $100 to fix it with. I have kept the seller up to date with the situation, and I have called and spoken with the franchise owner of the UPS Store he shipped the blower out from. Really, I am sitting here screwed out of any money I have to pay to fix this thing…and to be honest; I can’t afford it right now. I have already spent a lot of money getting ready for this swap, and now for this to happen makes it much worse.
I have given the seller ample time to work with me on this issue and I have not been able to speak with him on the phone since Saturday afternoon (2-14). I have called him four times or so (my phone records show twice on 2-17, and at least once on 2-16; phone doesn’t go back any further), once a day since that day to speak with him about certain things, but I get no call returned. I finally got fed up with him not calling me back, and yesterday left him a message telling him that he needed to call me back and work this out since this was not my problem, nor my fault seeing as he didn’t put insurance on the package. I still have not received a call back, and am at my wit’s end on how to deal with this.
Seller, if you read this, all I ask from you to make this right is to buy me a new snout and pulley for the blower. I have spoken to Whipple today (and Monday-Tuesday as well), and that’s all it seems it needs. I have already bought the pulley, and I got it for a good price so there should be no issue there. I will take this as the one and only resolution to this problem.
Also, I have another question; did you pop a motor with this Whipple on top? I found very small chunks of metal in the inlet and very back of the rotors that look to be from an engine. They are certainly not from the blower; I have looked it over and can’t see where it would have come from on the blower. If this happened, why did you not tell me before I bought it? This is need-to-know information for a buyer…
So, in closing, I am sitting here with a blower that may or may not work with a snout replacement, and it might work as it is with a new pulley. So, folks, what do you think? I hope I am doing the right thing here, but I feel as if I am getting nowhere with the seller and UPS and I need to resort to posting this in the open forum. I really hate doing this, and will edit my post if he will try to help me out here, but until then, this is going to stay.
Here are the PM’s between us, in chronological order:
Me: Hey man, you got a KB for sale?
Seller: Its a whipple 2.3
Me: Price/details/etc? I am interested if we can agree on a price.
Seller: its a 2300ax with about 9k miles. Its black and has the single blade tb inlet. $2200 + shipping
Me: Will you take $2000 plus shipping? Do you need anything on trade? I will come out and say that I don't have all the money right now (have about 70%), can we work out something for you to hold it for me? We can do deposit or something...I know I WILL have the money; just not right now. Should have 100% in a week or week and a half. This is a Gen1, right?
Let's work something out!
Seller: Yes a gen 1. I may be up for cash and some kind of trade. What exactly do you have?
Me: Hey bro, I was just checking with you to see if you got my last message...I can have the money to you by the end of this week...
Can you shoot me some pics of the blower?
Seller: Yes what is your email address? Where are you located exactly? If we are not too far apart maybe we could meet up?
Me: Well, I live in South Alabama, so I doubt that we would be able to meet up...LOL
My email address is XXXXXX
Whatcha think about my offer, though? I am 100% sure I want the blower if it's in good shape (it is, right?) and if we can get right on price.
Make sure to send me some pics of the rotors too, please. Thanks man!
Seller: Pics sent let me know what you think
Me: It looks good! Is there any play in the drive at all?
Will you take $2000 plus shipping for it? I can have you the money by the end of the week if you will. I don't know what method of payment is best for this, but I will find out today at work (I work at a bank)
I can probably get a cashier's check if you are cool with that. Thanks man!
Seller: There is no play its tight. I can do 2000 plus actual shipping. A cashiers would be fine. let me know.
Me: That works for me, man. Any idea how much it will cost to ship? Do you want me to just paypal you the shipping cost after the fact? I have worked with my buyers like this before and it worked out well.
I will get the money from my bank and should be able to have it in the mail late this week. It will be a cashier's check from my bank that I work at.
If you want, you can give me a call this evening at your convenience. I also will need all your info; phone number, name, address, and etc.
Thanks!
Hunter
Seller: what is your zip there?
Me: *zip*
Seller: The package weighs 41lbs and looks to be about 83.00 to ship to you.
Me: Ok, sounds good. I will have to get some more cash from my account...LOL
I will have my money together Friday, and depending on what time I get it shipped out, it will go out Friday as well. If not Friday, I will send it from my PO on Saturday. Is this ok for you?
I guess you will ship the package out as soon as you get the cashier's check? Also, do you have a single blade TB?
How much do you want the check to be for; $2,083.00?
Thanks man, and again, I need all your info so I can send this to you.
Seller: $2083.00 will be fine. As soon as I recieve check and all is good I will ship blower to you. Thanks
Shaun XXXXXX
His address
Me: Hey man, just touching base with you...I should have the money out Friday or Saturday. We are still good, right?
Seller: yup, its a go.
Me: Just checking to see if you got the check or not. Let me know man!
Thanks!
Seller: Yes i got it yesterday and everything is cool. I will ship blower out tomorrow or sat and send you tracking asap. Thanks again!
Me: Awesome! Thanks for the deal bro! You going to ship it normal FedEx or UPS...3 day type deal?
Seller: UPS 3 day
Me: perfect. Thanks man!
Seller: Blower was shipped today. Tracking # is 1ZR031E60359794420. Pleas note there is no oil in the blower. So dont forget to fill it up before use. I always used 5w-50 syn.
Me: Hey man, I tried to call you yesterday, and left you a message. I sent you a video of the blower and the damage, and I will send you the pics I took this afternoon. I need to know if the package had insurance on it...let me know man.
Thanks
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