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2015+ Shelby GT350 Mustang
probably gonna piss a lot of people off, but i gotta ask:
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<blockquote data-quote="reason4treason" data-source="post: 14615515" data-attributes="member: 134879"><p>so IYO is any of the $$$ rebate apology for the <em>quality</em> of the core components that ARE added such as suspension, brakes, tire features, Recaro buckets, shifter quality or is it almost exclusively an apology for a shortage in <em>quantity</em> of at least "good" (poor - satisfactory - good - superior) quality <u>household-level features</u>...etc, ect. or at least what can be accessed by someone in the midst of a less than fully conscious walk down the sidewalk? who among us has not seen someone literally stop walking in the middle of a crosswalk because cyber info just took precedence over realworld info as demonstrated by its reliability, ease-of-use, or sometimes just plain more fascinatingly entertaining in a world where information is becoming more and more the opiate of the masses. IMO it IS <span style="color: #FF0000">ABSOLUTELY </span>possible to die of boredom. Generally it's much less easy to see what led to that which we tend to boil down to assigning blame via casting our vote on what, what is primary cause and what is primary correlation.</p><p></p><p>if it's just sound system, heat warmers, NAV, how much did Z/28 really miss the ball on this one? putting together a suspension system that does <u>superior</u> work in an area of the vehicle that I'd assert is probably most important because you have to blend so much that MUST work AS A Coordinated System <strong>SYSTEM</strong>. handling/suspension IMO is the area where THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS OBVIOUSLY AND EXPONENTIAL CHANGE BLOWS LINEAR PROGRESS AWAY +/_. WHEN PRICES ARE DROPPED $22K on a new z/28 car that's not even been out for 1 1/2 years, that's a tough thing to summarize on a car forum regulars have only been seeing/hearing about for about 1 1/2 years.</p><p></p><p>infact as cyber info becomes increasingly relied upon as something of increasing importance regarding where we draw and/or in vivo impose the boundary, rather than as a semi-frivolous mental construct increasingly relied upon by folks who are still fascinated by the latest model of phone, and still wait in line in the dark as if they were Stones tickets where its ramifications like so many boundaries in the USA keep moving more and more in the direction of their becoming the more important and useful, as well as the go-to place to get the lastest scoop. </p><p></p><p>***how much more "advantage" room is left in 'living room grade' Z/28 Component Access info access as compared to 'car cabin grade' info access?</p><p></p><p>Remember when Dad would get into his car for work, the family enthusiastically waving good-bye from the driveway? How about the road trips with Mom and Pop leading singalongs, or the I Spy game from the backseat? Whatever happened to those days?</p><p></p><p>Traffic is what happened.</p><p> </p><p>***so if your opinion is that a $22K+ apology IS IN ORDER, would you please ballpark break that down in to their major components, their cost alterations that would allow for a $76-79K Z/28? I'm not hearing anything about a drastic redux in MSRP on Z/28 along the lines of the GEN V VIPER. would you ballpark break down that $22K into its component parts? apologies can have their usefulness but an explicit statement of what will be done differently should carry a lot more weight.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, do you believe Ford may still have something left hanging out there that it still needs to figure out in marketing so as to avoid such a pitfall with the GT350? and regarding the risk of spillover effects onto the GT500 (or whatever it's to be called</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reason4treason, post: 14615515, member: 134879"] so IYO is any of the $$$ rebate apology for the [I]quality[/I] of the core components that ARE added such as suspension, brakes, tire features, Recaro buckets, shifter quality or is it almost exclusively an apology for a shortage in [I]quantity[/I] of at least "good" (poor - satisfactory - good - superior) quality [U]household-level features[/U]...etc, ect. or at least what can be accessed by someone in the midst of a less than fully conscious walk down the sidewalk? who among us has not seen someone literally stop walking in the middle of a crosswalk because cyber info just took precedence over realworld info as demonstrated by its reliability, ease-of-use, or sometimes just plain more fascinatingly entertaining in a world where information is becoming more and more the opiate of the masses. IMO it IS [COLOR="#FF0000"]ABSOLUTELY [/COLOR]possible to die of boredom. Generally it's much less easy to see what led to that which we tend to boil down to assigning blame via casting our vote on what, what is primary cause and what is primary correlation. if it's just sound system, heat warmers, NAV, how much did Z/28 really miss the ball on this one? putting together a suspension system that does [U]superior[/U] work in an area of the vehicle that I'd assert is probably most important because you have to blend so much that MUST work AS A Coordinated System [U][/U][B]SYSTEM[/B]. handling/suspension IMO is the area where THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS OBVIOUSLY AND EXPONENTIAL CHANGE BLOWS LINEAR PROGRESS AWAY +/_. WHEN PRICES ARE DROPPED $22K on a new z/28 car that's not even been out for 1 1/2 years, that's a tough thing to summarize on a car forum regulars have only been seeing/hearing about for about 1 1/2 years. infact as cyber info becomes increasingly relied upon as something of increasing importance regarding where we draw and/or in vivo impose the boundary, rather than as a semi-frivolous mental construct increasingly relied upon by folks who are still fascinated by the latest model of phone, and still wait in line in the dark as if they were Stones tickets where its ramifications like so many boundaries in the USA keep moving more and more in the direction of their becoming the more important and useful, as well as the go-to place to get the lastest scoop. ***how much more "advantage" room is left in 'living room grade' Z/28 Component Access info access as compared to 'car cabin grade' info access? Remember when Dad would get into his car for work, the family enthusiastically waving good-bye from the driveway? How about the road trips with Mom and Pop leading singalongs, or the I Spy game from the backseat? Whatever happened to those days? Traffic is what happened. ***so if your opinion is that a $22K+ apology IS IN ORDER, would you please ballpark break that down in to their major components, their cost alterations that would allow for a $76-79K Z/28? I'm not hearing anything about a drastic redux in MSRP on Z/28 along the lines of the GEN V VIPER. would you ballpark break down that $22K into its component parts? apologies can have their usefulness but an explicit statement of what will be done differently should carry a lot more weight. Also, do you believe Ford may still have something left hanging out there that it still needs to figure out in marketing so as to avoid such a pitfall with the GT350? and regarding the risk of spillover effects onto the GT500 (or whatever it's to be called [/QUOTE]
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