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<blockquote data-quote="CPRsm" data-source="post: 14883624" data-attributes="member: 81705"><p>One crack in the cartech system w no brace since '92 ain't bad! Lol. </p><p>Truth is metal fatigues, all of them. They all also all oxidize. That's why mild turns red, and stainless turns brown. Neither material will stay new forever. Even the aluminum head unit on a blower or turbo is going to oxidize. Check out the color of your oem catback. That color is it oxidizing. It will probably never fall apart, but we've never had that problem w mild either. The exterior is ceramic coated for that purpose. And the inside becomes coated in carbon which does a good job of keeping it protected believe it or not. When you take a part off the kit you'll see species of rust showing thru. But no flakes, scale, and still in one piece. We've never had a kit fall apart. Your stress vs heat theory is the same as ours. That's why we also brace our turbos so the kit doesn't have to carry that weight. Which in this case is the wieght of a small child lol.</p><p></p><p>We chose mild because when we started doing this a decade ago we looked into it and the consensus was SS cracked over time between the expansion rate, and the material becoming brittle. We haven't really found it to be true as much as a lot of people just can't weld it. The weld is very easy to overheat. Then it's fubar. We've done 304 as well even on the coyote w a few test sets. 20k miles on one set and so far so good. But it's harder to work with, costs double in argon to weld, wears out tooling faster and the material costs more. When we decided on mild for this kit, the offset in cost in material and labor is what lets use a larger down pipe, CNC flanges, Garret intercooler cores, and many other small differences that set us apart, while still being within market range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CPRsm, post: 14883624, member: 81705"] One crack in the cartech system w no brace since '92 ain't bad! Lol. Truth is metal fatigues, all of them. They all also all oxidize. That's why mild turns red, and stainless turns brown. Neither material will stay new forever. Even the aluminum head unit on a blower or turbo is going to oxidize. Check out the color of your oem catback. That color is it oxidizing. It will probably never fall apart, but we've never had that problem w mild either. The exterior is ceramic coated for that purpose. And the inside becomes coated in carbon which does a good job of keeping it protected believe it or not. When you take a part off the kit you'll see species of rust showing thru. But no flakes, scale, and still in one piece. We've never had a kit fall apart. Your stress vs heat theory is the same as ours. That's why we also brace our turbos so the kit doesn't have to carry that weight. Which in this case is the wieght of a small child lol. We chose mild because when we started doing this a decade ago we looked into it and the consensus was SS cracked over time between the expansion rate, and the material becoming brittle. We haven't really found it to be true as much as a lot of people just can't weld it. The weld is very easy to overheat. Then it's fubar. We've done 304 as well even on the coyote w a few test sets. 20k miles on one set and so far so good. But it's harder to work with, costs double in argon to weld, wears out tooling faster and the material costs more. When we decided on mild for this kit, the offset in cost in material and labor is what lets use a larger down pipe, CNC flanges, Garret intercooler cores, and many other small differences that set us apart, while still being within market range. [/QUOTE]
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