How far below MSRP and who was the dealer
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How far below MSRP and who was the dealer
I agree, there should be something put in place. However, Not only do you have the dealer agreement to abide by, you also have local and state franchise laws that prohibit some of the meddling in dealers business.
It's really insane, but in all actuality, let all the idiots go out and pay over sticker. Wait, and pick one up at or below sticker. It happens with every Shelby, every time.
Some people have more dollars than cents. I mean sense
dont remember the dealer name, ive talked to so many. it was 1500 below
i didnt think much of it cause i knew it was gonna happen but was still frustrating. exact same thing happened to me with an 09 gt500
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i dont, i remember it was in oklahoma cause i was looking at flights to oklahoma city.this was several weeks ago
I don't want to get in the middle of the argument, but want to specifically address this point.
The problem is that they do not list all cars at MSRP. Some are clearly marked up on both sites. That then creates a perception problem where the (un)informed buyer believes that since some cars are clearly intended to be sold above MSRP, some are clearly to be sold at MSRP.
Whether the fault lies with the dealers for not updating their inventory, or the sites for not making it clear that not all dealers update their inventory, could be argued either way. I know I didn't bother to call the clearly marked up cars, and was a bit frustrated to call the MSRP cars only to find a) ADM, b) sold, or c) just plain wrong.
I agree. Some dealers adjust their prices, some don't. Leads to consumers believing all the prices are the actual prices.
Yup. You could probably prove laziness, but I doubt you'd ever prove collusion.
Question for you. Does Ford tell dealers their allocation for the year? Meaning, should all the dealers receiving GT350's know how many allocations they have by now? I'm asking because when I was calling around there seemed to be a whole lot of confusion on the dealer's end about details of ordering this car. This late in the game that seems odd to me.
Great question.
So here's how this program works. All dealers were allowed to sign up for the GT350 Enrollment program if they chose to do so. If you signed up, you were guaranteed 1 car in 2016. In order to sign up you must pay $2000 ($1000 in 2015 and $1000 in 2016). Additional allocations will be handed out by more of a lottery system.
Dealers won't know how many 16 GT350's they'll end up with until the 2016's are balanced out and the MY17 order banks open.
I was a little different than most. I signed up, paid my money and got in on the program. I don't sell enough Mustangs in order to get multiple allocations. During the sign up process I had a stand in Ford rep...green pea...that emailed everyone in our region the day before sign up closed and told everyone this was the last call. Fortunately for me, he included a list of dealers that had not signed up yet. So I spent the next 3 hours calling every single one of them on the list, offering to pay their enrollment fee if I got their cars. I ended up buying in for 4 other dealers, giving me a guaranteed 5 allocations for 2016. I imagine I will get 3ish in 2017. I figure that because I received 5, retailed 3 and wholesaled 2. Obviously the wholesale units wont count in my sales numbers.
If I could come up with a fix for this system, I would find out a way where Ford would be more transparent with the dealers, allowing us to be more transparent with the customers. Because in all actuality, I am guaranteed 5 this year, but with my 3 retail units sold, I may be eligible for more units. I'd love to take more orders and sell them, but Ford can't guarantee me additional units, and I refuse to take deposits unless I know I can produce a car.
Hope that clears it up.
chris and 13cobra I looked through my old emails and it was midwest city ford in oklahoma
Yep. Selfishly, I would've traded all 5 to get an R to keep LOL
I've heard stuff like that about them before. Sorry you dealt with that.
thanks but its not a big deal. had a really good experience with a salesman from a store in texas. he didnt sell me a car but took time to ask exactly what i wanted and told me all the dealerships that had that car in their inventory and then gave me their phone number. knowing i was not gonna buy from him, he still took time to help me out. was pretty cool. like other have stated, there are scumbags but there are some cool salesman that are car guys like us and want to help
Got it. Thanks for the clarification. I see why securing one at msrp is next to impossible now. I'm also surprised those dealers whose cars you received didn't have the foresight to see the cash cow this car would be. I mean, this isn't the 1st time we've seen this with Shelby's.
The dealers that sold to me were very tiny dealerships. Any where from 5 to 13 employees. They wouldn't want to pay floorplan on one.
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