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Fair enough.... I just don't really see the "Skill" in shifting gears. I get the whole being in the right gear at the right time thing but with todays computers and the fact that they have (10) speeds to chose from the auto will chose the right gear as soon as u depress the pedal or slow down.
there is no 10 speed gear box for a stick shift. Todays technology just trumps having a stick shift these days.
I get why people like them cause u feel like ur actually driving the car vs. computer making decisions for u but if it isn't making u go faster then its not that desirable for most in a competitive field.
Think about tho if a competitive racer could clearly go faster with a stick shift over an auto don't u think they would all be driving a stick shift?
there is no 10 speed gear box for a stick shift. Todays technology just trumps having a stick shift these days.
I get why people like them cause u feel like ur actually driving the car vs. computer making decisions for u but if it isn't making u go faster then its not that desirable for most in a competitive field.
Think about tho if a competitive racer could clearly go faster with a stick shift over an auto don't u think they would all be driving a stick shift?
The boys seen in Street Outlaws are still using a bump shifter. Yes, they have an automatic. However, they have to choose which converter to run based on track / street conditions. They do not have a clutch, but they are still manually shifting up.
In a true daily driver street race, an auto should win every time. Full throttle and trans efficiency should make perfect and precise shifts.
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Theres nothing really automatic about whats going on there lol go drive a sequential race car, ill bet you miss a couple gears. Regardless, even the modern F1 car is a hell of a lot easier than what they used to use with the 4 speed H patterns.
There isnt even an argument that a true auto is easier to drive.
Sequential gives full control while being faster due to not using the clutch in motion (which is still there btw, manually used to get moving)
^^^this and plenty of F1 drivers still stall the car at the start.
YOU SHUT YER FILTHY WHORE MOUTH! Hybrid.....no.
For the street which is 99% of the drivers here the new 10 speed trannies are the shit and will out run any stick shift anytime on either a road course or the drag strip compared to a stick and thats all that really matters cause less then 1% of the forum members here have a dedicated competitive race car so who really gives a shit!
And why is the 10sp going to be faster around the track with 99% of people who drive them?
Drag strip is an obvious answer but when talking road course... The 10sp is faster becaaaaaause...?
No delay between shifts and a firmer lockup
Well, some dude just called me ignorant while he was trying to prove it takes more skill to race an automatic. I think that sums it up lol
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If you use the Z06 as an example that's been stated a few times as an example for logic purposes. For this test there are two Z06's. One manual one automatic. There are two drivers. One is Randy Probst and the other is some average Joe. Both do 10 laps each. 5 in the automatic and 5 in the manual. In the experiment Randy Probst posts better times with the manual whereas the average Joe has better times in the Automatic. Does this clarify why a manual requires more skill? I don't get why this isn't blatantly obvious?
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Indeed. The new cars with all the new safety standards have really made them quite heavy so it's great the HP can be bumped up so far.
Now we are talking. If I could have a bump shifter (no clutch) in my car, that would be the best of both worlds. I'm just not much of a fan of the paddle shifters. Too removed from all the action I suppose. I've driven an automatic Mustang and it was a different experience for me. I just prefer the manual, more fun.
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I know how the trans and the shifter works.
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Oh FFS, it allows more flexibility to keep the engine in the power band.
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