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2012-2013 Boss 302 Mustang
Mustang Boss 302 to come with special key for race calibration, free track day
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<blockquote data-quote="Nathan'sTsi" data-source="post: 10186940" data-attributes="member: 14187"><p>I swear, some of you have the reading comprehension of a third grader, and that might be giving you a little credit. I am well versed on the Boss.</p><p></p><p>First of all, I am not ripping on the Boss, nor the Cobra R's. It's never been about that. I'll say it (for what, the third time in this thread???) that I am a buyer for one. However, that does not mean it is going to be the best car to buy in order to get the fastest lap times.</p><p></p><p>You guys need to be a little realistic here. The Boss is being marketed as being a couple seconds faster around Laguna Seca than a new M3. Through other comparisons, the new GT isn't that far from a new M3 in the lap times department. Are you seriously trying to tell me with 10k in mods you couldn't get a base GT with Brembos to run Laguna Seca 4 seconds faster than a new M3? That is all that would be necessary for me to be right and all of you fan boys, to be wrong. What do you think a set of R comps would be worth time wise around a track? Now you have 9k left to make up that difference. Still think I am crazy?</p><p>You can view my stand point a couple different ways. It's either an attack of a new Boss, or a praise to the new GT. They are honestly not THAT far apart. </p><p>A lot of you mention the extensive differences between the GT and Boss. That's great. Thanks for the redundant posts of something that everyone that is posting in these threads already knows. However, you do me a favor and showing what makes up that 10k in price difference to Ford, which minimizes the amount of that difference that is actually put towards the suspension. To say the shocks and struts on the boss are on par with some remote resevoir penskes or ohlins, is absolutely insane (I'm looking right at you Jimmy). The adjustable Ford racing struts are like $800 for the entire set. Certainly not high dollar. They may or may not be the same, but the bodies are the same, as are the adjustment points and hardware. Best case scenario the valving is different.</p><p>IS the Boss's motor better? Sure. Are there other things on the Boss that make it more of a complete car? Absolutely. Could you take a GT and spend 10k on it and turn a faster lap time that a showroom stock Boss? Think about that before you hit the reply or quote button, because that is all I am saying.</p><p></p><p>If you say "no" than I am going to have to say you are ignorant, and there is no reason for anyone to argue with you.</p><p></p><p>Again, I really like the Boss. If I could afford to wait until all of the ADM hype died down, I would own one. I am being 100% serious. If Ford announced they were going to build all they could sell and take plan pricing, they would already have my deposit.</p><p></p><p>I'm not naive though. I know for a pure track car, or any car you are going to mod, that it's always better to go with the cheaper car and spend the difference in mods. How many SERIOUS track guys are out there with stock cars with stock suspension? Probably not too many. That's the way this sickness....errr...hobby works. Then, if you know you are going to "upgrade" the parts anyways, why start with the more expensive pieces? That would mean you would have a more expensive spare parts bin when you are done <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nathan'sTsi, post: 10186940, member: 14187"] I swear, some of you have the reading comprehension of a third grader, and that might be giving you a little credit. I am well versed on the Boss. First of all, I am not ripping on the Boss, nor the Cobra R's. It's never been about that. I'll say it (for what, the third time in this thread???) that I am a buyer for one. However, that does not mean it is going to be the best car to buy in order to get the fastest lap times. You guys need to be a little realistic here. The Boss is being marketed as being a couple seconds faster around Laguna Seca than a new M3. Through other comparisons, the new GT isn't that far from a new M3 in the lap times department. Are you seriously trying to tell me with 10k in mods you couldn't get a base GT with Brembos to run Laguna Seca 4 seconds faster than a new M3? That is all that would be necessary for me to be right and all of you fan boys, to be wrong. What do you think a set of R comps would be worth time wise around a track? Now you have 9k left to make up that difference. Still think I am crazy? You can view my stand point a couple different ways. It's either an attack of a new Boss, or a praise to the new GT. They are honestly not THAT far apart. A lot of you mention the extensive differences between the GT and Boss. That's great. Thanks for the redundant posts of something that everyone that is posting in these threads already knows. However, you do me a favor and showing what makes up that 10k in price difference to Ford, which minimizes the amount of that difference that is actually put towards the suspension. To say the shocks and struts on the boss are on par with some remote resevoir penskes or ohlins, is absolutely insane (I'm looking right at you Jimmy). The adjustable Ford racing struts are like $800 for the entire set. Certainly not high dollar. They may or may not be the same, but the bodies are the same, as are the adjustment points and hardware. Best case scenario the valving is different. IS the Boss's motor better? Sure. Are there other things on the Boss that make it more of a complete car? Absolutely. Could you take a GT and spend 10k on it and turn a faster lap time that a showroom stock Boss? Think about that before you hit the reply or quote button, because that is all I am saying. If you say "no" than I am going to have to say you are ignorant, and there is no reason for anyone to argue with you. Again, I really like the Boss. If I could afford to wait until all of the ADM hype died down, I would own one. I am being 100% serious. If Ford announced they were going to build all they could sell and take plan pricing, they would already have my deposit. I'm not naive though. I know for a pure track car, or any car you are going to mod, that it's always better to go with the cheaper car and spend the difference in mods. How many SERIOUS track guys are out there with stock cars with stock suspension? Probably not too many. That's the way this sickness....errr...hobby works. Then, if you know you are going to "upgrade" the parts anyways, why start with the more expensive pieces? That would mean you would have a more expensive spare parts bin when you are done ;) [/QUOTE]
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